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Old 07-07-2013, 02:32 PM  
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What if TSHTF

First off I am not a prepper except for guns and ammo, with that said.. Also, I am bored with talking about the George Zimmerman Trial

What if The Shit Hit The Fan

Banks were closed and money becomes worthless.
Stores were looted and the shelves were empty.
Electric,Water and Sewer services gone..
Gas rationed heavily, roads probably not fit for movement..

What happens next? How do people react? Whats the best course of action..
What would you do? What happens when people start getting hungry?
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #121
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If it all did go down, Dane, do you think people are prepared for it?

How would most act if they and their families were starving?

I think that's the question theirs thread is asking
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:34 PM   #122
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Most wouldn't know the first thing about living.

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Old 07-07-2013, 08:39 PM   #123
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So, where was the looting when New York and New Jersey experienced a massive hurricane in 2012? Where was the looting and barbarism when it happened just a few months later with the massive snowstorm?

Your scenario is unrealistic at best and ridiculous at worse. There will never be a time in history when the electricity, plumbing and energy refuse to work simultaneously.

Unless, aliens invade and then we're all dead, anyway.

And they'll target North Carolina first.
You have way too much confidence in people as a whole. Our society is horribly dependent on our current infrastructure. People underestimate just how little it would take to have people killing each other over food and water. In the case of real social breakdown, it would get barbaric very quickly. The examples you used aren't really applicable to actual social collapse. That's simply disaster recovery, not social collapse. Empty the supermarkets, and cut off the supply of gasoline for a week or two, and see how long it takes before cities implode and people are clubbing each other to death over bottles of water.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:48 PM   #124
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You have way too much confidence in people as a whole. Our society is horribly dependent on our current infrastructure. People underestimate just how little it would take to have people killing each other over food and water. In the case of real social breakdown, it would get barbaric very quickly. The examples you used aren't really applicable to actual social collapse. That's simply disaster recovery, not social collapse. Empty the supermarkets, and cut off the supply of gasoline for a week or two, and see how long it takes before cities implode and people are clubbing each other to death over bottles of water.
I guess my reaction comes from the POV that a scenario like this is about 100,000,000,000,000,000 to one.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:50 PM   #125
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If it all did go down, Dane, do you think people are prepared for it?

How would most act if they and their families were starving?

I think that's the question theirs thread is asking
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I don't think it'll ever go down.

I don't think that 7 billion people are ready for it.

I do think the human race would survive.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:59 PM   #126
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If it all did go down, Dane, do you think people are prepared for it?

How would most act if they and their families were starving?

I think that's the question theirs thread is asking
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Probably pretty similar to the billion post apocalyptic stories, movies, and games that are out there.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:03 PM   #127
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For sure those who doubt the need to prepare or who ignore it will not be in a good position under any circumstance. There are far more people who think about it than many suspect, some take no action, some do and all to different degrees.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:04 PM   #128
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I guess my reaction comes from the POV that a scenario like this is about 100,000,000,000,000,000 to one.
Well I certainly hope it never happens. But I wouldn't put those kinds of odds against it. The problem is that our energy infrastructure is surprisingly fragile and susceptible. And we as a society are wholly dependent on it. I'm no prepper by any means. But I think we as a people are dangerously over confident in our social stability, and the overwhelming majority couldn't handle long term disruption of it.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:07 PM   #129
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I thought they were GONE at first.

The end is coming bros.

Someone out there is stocking up on crunchy style cheetos and I'm going to have to kill them for it.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:10 PM   #130
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I guess my reaction comes from the POV that a scenario like this is about 100,000,000,000,000,000 to one.
It doesn't matter the odds of it happening or not; this is a hypothetical question, so in order to participate you have to accept the basic assumption that it happened. It's more an estimation of what we think of the human psyche and society than an assessment of whether or not this will actually happen. Run with it.

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Probably pretty similar to the billion post apocalyptic stories, movies, and games that are out there.
Probably just the opposite. Stories and movies and games of any kind are made to be dramatic! and exciting! and with thrilling action! and real life just doesn't have any interest in all that stuff at all.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:12 PM   #131
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Let America get hungry and just see how barbaric people become.

Oh the prisoners would most likely revolt and escape as well
and it wouldn't be stoic 'tough guy' barbaric

it would be some dude who stinks of crapping himself sneaking up on an old lady stealing her last can of tuna ugly

human beings are crap ... whole cities would turn into a battle ground in a couple of weeks

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Old 07-07-2013, 09:19 PM   #132
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I don't think it'll ever go down.

I don't think that 7 billion people are ready for it.

I do think the human race would survive.
I agree with everything in this post.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:25 PM   #133
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:27 PM   #134
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:41 PM   #135
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I've got a water source. I've got lots of guns and ammo. I practice survival skills several times a year, and I've got plenty of animals around for food. Having said all that, I'll probably just start choking people out and cannibalizing them.
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