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Old 07-08-2013, 06:02 PM  
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OK. The following is an email I recieved, I called the number it gives and it appears to be true. If these Muslims take control of our political offices we are going to be in for the fight of our lives. This is not good! Michigan has a Muslim in their congress and thats what THEY plan to do is take over our government.

Here is the main context : I actually called the Michigan Dept. of Human Services, and yes, option 3 is Arabic! I went to the website for them in the link below and sure enough, on the right side of the page, there is an application for food assistance PDF file in English, Spanish and Arabic! I opened the file to see for myself and it’s there alright. Have we gone completely nuts!!?...



Muslim men are allowed to have as many as 4 wives. Many Muslims have immigrated into the U.S. and brought their 2-3-or 4 wives with them, but the U.S. does not allow multi-marriages, so the man lists one wife as his, and signs the other 2 or 3 up as extended family on welfare and other free Government programs!

So now in Michigan when you call the Public Assistance office you are told to “Press 1 for English. Press 2 for Spanish, or Press 3 for Arabic”! Here is the number 1-888-678-8914
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:19 PM   #31
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:27 PM   #32
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I see how you like to set people up so my official statement is that a Muslim official is fine if they hold to our declaration of independence and our laws. If they want to change our constitution , make it a law that 4 wifes are OK and stoning their daughters for infedility is Ok then **** you !


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Old 07-08-2013, 08:30 PM   #33
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Do we want our children living under Sharia law in the next 20-30 years . I don't !
Here's the uncomfortable question many people need to ask....is Sharia law really that much different than any other religiously oriented law? Large numbers of people already live under a religious fundamentalist law here. Pick your poison, be it the current laws trying to ban abortion, gay marriage, to the classic blue laws about when shops should be open and when alcohol sales are allowed to be made or not. It's not like we prevent people from selling booze on Fridays or Saturdays too....

Should ANY legal system be making laws because some religions moral view says it should?

You can't bitch about someone elses religion making laws that you don't like when your religions is making laws that other people don't like. The simple reality is that NO religion should be involved in making laws. Just because you don't like something or your religion says it's wrong is not grounds to make a law prohibiting it.....

If we lived under that standard who the hell would care how many muslims came here because they wouldn't be implementing sharia law anywhere...but to do that we need to stop making laws based upon christian beliefs too.(or other socials beliefs, from gun control to environmental, etc) Personal morality, whatever the source, is not grounds for making a law prohibiting something.

That is the uncomfortable reality of our world. We are quick to scream when someone makes a law based upon their own dislikes, but we loathe to admit when we do the same.....
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:34 PM   #34
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:36 PM   #35
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Letting Muslims infiltrate our government.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:42 PM   #36
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Here's the uncomfortable question many people need to ask....is Sharia law really that much different than any other religiously oriented law? Large numbers of people already live under a religious fundamentalist law here. Pick your poison, be it the current laws trying to ban abortion, gay marriage, to the classic blue laws about when shops should be open and when alcohol sales are allowed to be made or not. It's not like we prevent people from selling booze on Fridays or Saturdays too....

Should ANY legal system be making laws because some religions moral view says it should?

You can't bitch about someone elses religion making laws that you don't like when your religions is making laws that other people don't like. The simple reality is that NO religion should be involved in making laws. Just because you don't like something or your religion says it's wrong is not grounds to make a law prohibiting it.....

If we lived under that standard who the hell would care how many muslims came here because they wouldn't be implementing sharia law anywhere...but to do that we need to stop making laws based upon christian beliefs too.(or other socials beliefs, from gun control to environmental, etc) Personal morality, whatever the source, is not grounds for making a law prohibiting something.

That is the uncomfortable reality of our world. We are quick to scream when someone makes a law based upon their own dislikes, but we loathe to admit when we do the same.....
Earlier in the thread, I said that I didn't want sharia, but I wasn't all that thrilled with the attempts at Christian law either.

HOWEVER--I'm not familiar with any other currently-practiced religious-based law that punishes a woman if she manages to get herself gang-raped. A lot of that shit is fairly ****ed up, and that's an understatement.

That's not to say I'm concerned with sharia becoming US law though--that's nutjob stuff.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:58 PM   #37
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Earlier in the thread, I said that I didn't want sharia, but I wasn't all that thrilled with the attempts at Christian law either.

HOWEVER--I'm not familiar with any other currently-practiced religious-based law that punishes a woman if she manages to get herself gang-raped. A lot of that shit is fairly ****ed up, and that's an understatement.

That's not to say I'm concerned with sharia becoming US law though--that's nutjob stuff.
While I agree most forms of sharia we hear about are extreme, there are western countries where that exact same case can occur.

The most obvious is Ireland which prohibits abortion in ALL cases. So if a women was gang raped and got pregnant and the pregnancy threatened her life she would be screwed. Unless she could travel to Britain to get it aborted there's a very good chance she would die as a result of that rape.

Just last year in Ireland a 31 year old dentist died because her pregnancy went wrong and was denied an abortion at the hospital.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:27 PM   #38
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That's not to say I'm concerned with sharia becoming US law though--that's nutjob stuff.
By "nutjob" did you mean to say RWNJ-TeaParty-douchebag-teabagging rhetoric and talking points?

If so, I agree....wholeheartedly.
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I see how you like to set people up so my official statement is that a Muslim official is fine if they hold to our declaration of independence and our laws. If they want to change our constitution , make it a law that 4 wifes are OK and stoning their daughters for infedility is Ok then **** you !
oru own dem and republicans don't follow the constitution
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By "nutjob" did you mean to say RWNJ-TeaParty-douchebag-teabagging rhetoric and talking points?

If so, I agree....wholeheartedly.
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...Pick your poison, be it the current laws trying to ban abortion,
...which never actual succeed at banning abortion...

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gay marriage,
...as gay marriage expands steadily...

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to the classic blue laws about when shops should be open and when alcohol sales are allowed to be made or not.
...which enjoy wide support from the mom and pop liquor stores that know that they're going to sell virtually the same amount of booze in six days that they sell in seven and they get a day off and avoid the extra expense of staying open every ****ing day just because you idiot drunks won't plan for shit unless you're forced...

I mean, seriously, just stop. We're not coming for you. Truth be told, we're just not all that interested in you.

When they start offering federal forms in Second Temple Aramaic, you can begin worrying about too much Christian influence.

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I'm sorry , I have strong feelings on this . My view is that the Muslims have an agenda to take over America. If you watch what is going on in the world ,you can't disagree.
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