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Old 07-08-2013, 05:02 PM  
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OK. The following is an email I recieved, I called the number it gives and it appears to be true. If these Muslims take control of our political offices we are going to be in for the fight of our lives. This is not good! Michigan has a Muslim in their congress and thats what THEY plan to do is take over our government.

Here is the main context : I actually called the Michigan Dept. of Human Services, and yes, option 3 is Arabic! I went to the website for them in the link below and sure enough, on the right side of the page, there is an application for food assistance PDF file in English, Spanish and Arabic! I opened the file to see for myself and it’s there alright. Have we gone completely nuts!!?...



Muslim men are allowed to have as many as 4 wives. Many Muslims have immigrated into the U.S. and brought their 2-3-or 4 wives with them, but the U.S. does not allow multi-marriages, so the man lists one wife as his, and signs the other 2 or 3 up as extended family on welfare and other free Government programs!

So now in Michigan when you call the Public Assistance office you are told to “Press 1 for English. Press 2 for Spanish, or Press 3 for Arabic”! Here is the number 1-888-678-8914
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:01 PM   #76
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Islamic culture is not violent in general in itself. This is propaganda. Any people will fight and use violence to throw off outside occupiers, controllers and oppressors.

The idea they are natively violent stems from Christians and Muslims historically fighting one another. They are no different regarding fighting their heretics (Sunni Shia divide) than the Protestants and Christians or Christians and Jews.
You need to read a newspaper sometime. The Islamic world is on fire.

As just one example for you to consider, the Copts aren't outside occupiers nor are they oppressing anyone. They're just one minority group that's finding it hard to live in peace with a muslim majority. There is a virulent strain of Islamism running free in that part of the world. And it's not a minority faction either.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:19 PM   #77
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You need to read a newspaper sometime. The Islamic world is on fire.
You don't think I don't know this?

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As just one example for you to consider, the Copts aren't outside occupiers nor are they oppressing anyone. They're just one minority group that's finding it hard to live in peace with a muslim majority. There is a virulent strain of Islamism running free in that part of the world. And it's not a minority faction either.
Yes, I know about the Copts. I've been to Egypt ya' know. The reason is still the same. The West is Christian. We invaded a secular country full of Muslims in Iraq and Libya which has resulted in Christians being slaughtered or leaving. Also, Syria, since we're arming the rebels. Furthermore, Christians are the biggest backers of these wars and are supporters of Israel. This has pissed the Muslim world off royally so they take it out either us or Christians over there. It's the same thousand year war between Christians and Muslims otherwise.

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Old 07-10-2013, 04:36 PM   #78
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Yes, I know about the Copts. I've been to Egypt ya' know. The reason is still the same. The West is Christian. We invaded a secular country full of Muslims in Iraq and Libya which has resulted in Christians being slaughtered or leaving. Also, Syria, since we're arming the rebels. Furthermore, Christians are the biggest backers of these wars and are supporters of Israel. This has pissed the Muslim world off royally so they take it out either us or Christians over there. It's the same thousand year war between Christians and Muslims otherwise.

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Not to mention it is a entire geographical location of with next to no experience with Democracy, having been under some type of Empire (Ottomans and Other Empires before that), or under European colonial control and when that finally ended after the world wars, we just propped up a bunch of dictators.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:51 PM   #79
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You don't think I don't know this?


Yes, I know about the Copts. I've been to Egypt ya' know. The reason is still the same. The West is Christian. We invaded a secular country full of Muslims in Iraq and Libya which has resulted in Christians being slaughtered or leaving. Also, Syria, since we're arming the rebels. Furthermore, Christians are the biggest backers of these wars and are supporters of Israel. This has pissed the Muslim world off royally so they take it out either us or Christians over there. It's the same thousand year war between Christians and Muslims otherwise.

Next.
If your Egypt trip was a fact finding mission, you should get your money back. Sorry, the blame America first argument doesn't wash.
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If your Egypt trip was a fact finding mission, you should get your money back. Sorry, the blame America first argument doesn't wash.
You heard that on a conservative talk show now you're repeating it on here.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:47 AM   #81
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You heard that on a conservative talk show now you're repeating it on here.
Correct. Every conservative talk show was talking about BEP's trip to Egypt yesterday.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:58 AM   #82
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If your Egypt trip was a fact finding mission, you should get your money back. Sorry, the blame America first argument doesn't wash.
It wasn't a blame America first argument. That's the canned cliche of NeoCons.
It's a historical point and it's accurate. Just read the Thousand Year War. Both sides are still fighting it.

I will say this about Muslims, but it's due to their having emerged from a tribal culture, and that is if someone has harmed them they have vendettas against them for long term.
Even to one another.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:00 AM   #83
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You heard that on a conservative talk show now you're repeating it on here.
Yup! Doesn't involving any thinking or curiosity about the history of that area, or between Christians and Muslim's historically. Many Americans suffer from this ignorance even on other foreign countries. That's okay, ignorance can be handled with education—but they have to be willing to learn in order to truly resolve things.
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Correct. Every conservative talk show was talking about BEP's trip to Egypt yesterday.
You even spinning my post too? Seriously, pat, that comment was to your accusation about reading a frick'in newspaper as if I didn't know about the Copts including what is currently happening to them. Fact is as a minority group they have historically faced discrimination and restrictions in Egypt which has worsened since 2001.

To address your other point on newspapers, polls show very few people get their news any more from newspapers. That's why they've been in decline. Good riddance! Polls show people get their news from TV. Good grief! That leaves the right stuck on FOX as the source for news and it's owned by Murdoch a NeoCon who used to worship Lenin. Everyone, on that station gets paid by him so, of course the party line is promoted.
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