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Old 07-09-2013, 01:00 PM  
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The climate of the past decade. Anybody want to guess where it ranks historically?

Did you guess warmest since we've recorded it? Because you're right.

According to the World Meteorological Association's recent report on the past decade's climate.

Here's the forward/summary.



The chart:



We haven't had a climate brouhaha in a while.

What's our line these days, conservatives?

We believe climate change exists, right? Do we agree that humans are the preeminent cause?

Do you have any ideas you personally subscribe to as to what can/should be done?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:41 PM   #31
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I'm thinking outsourcing was a bad idea? We all know the chines and east indians are major polluters yadayada and that is where our outsourced destinations primarily lie, but since these countries don't consider pollution nearly as important as wealth of leadership, how do we know the quantities (rather ambiguously) reported by those countries are anywhere near correct?


I don't think the sample size is scientifically acceptable either. But I speak as a scientist, not just as a republican. We need accurate pollution data from those countries in order to correlate some findings, but in the end I think a few decades more are needed as well.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:41 PM   #32
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Yes, it seems that DC conservatives are rather diverse on the matter.
We'll see, I suppose.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:43 PM   #33
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No, not really. Pretty meaningless overall.
So you believe that humans are the preeminent cause of climate change, but that this is a "meaningless" development.

Now we're cooking with gas.

Just for starters, would you consider the drought we experienced last summer to be a meaningful event?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:44 PM   #34
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I'm thinking outsourcing was a bad idea? We all know the chines and east indians are major polluters yadayada and that is where our outsourced destinations primarily lie, but since these countries don't consider pollution nearly as important as wealth of leadership, how do we know the quantities (rather ambiguously) reported by those countries are anywhere near correct?

I don't think the sample size is scientifically acceptable either. But I speak as a scientist, not just as a republican. We need accurate pollution data from those countries in order to correlate some findings, but in the end I think a few decades more are needed as well.
So your position, more or less, is that the research on climate change is, so far, inconclusive?

Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong -- read your post twice, not sure if I got the gist of it.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:47 PM   #35
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Why is this worthless stupid thread already 3 pages long? Oh, that's right. Drek has >50% of the posts in it.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:50 PM   #36
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If you want to start a thread on immigration, I'm there.

I'm asking if you agree climate change exists, for starters.

You don't believe humans cause global warming. Because if you did, you (and all your ilk) would be howling bloody murder about the immigration crisis and demanding legal immigration be cut to scratch.


But you don't. So you really can't say you're worried about global warming. They go hand in hand.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:52 PM   #37
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You don't believe humans cause global warming. Because if you did, you (and all your ilk) would be howling bloody murder about the immigration crisis and demanding legal immigration be cut to scratch.

But you don't. So you really can't say you're worried about global warming. They go hand in hand.
That's all fine and good, but the central question I've asked you has been completely unanswered so far.

Do you believe climate change is occurring? And would you agree that humans are the preeminent cause of it?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:52 PM   #38
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This conservative believes that whether it's real or not and whether it's man made or not, it's not important compared to much more pressing economic and geopolitical problems for the foreseeable future. Let the countries who have much more to lose lead the way. For once, "lead from behind" might be a worthy strategy.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:53 PM   #39
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This conservative believes that whether it's real or not and whether it's man made or not, it's not important compared to much more pressing economic and geopolitical problems for the foreseeable future.
Alright.

Do you believe climate change is occurring, however? Do you believe humans are a preeminent cause of it?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:53 PM   #40
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That's all fine and good, but the central question I've asked you has been completely unanswered so far.

Do you believe climate change is occurring? And would you agree that humans are the preeminent cause of it?

Adding tens of millions of people from countries of low energy consumption to America - easily the highest consumption nation - is galactically stupid if you really believe humans cause global warming.


So no, you don't really believe we cause any of this. If you did, you'd demand immigration cease immediately.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:57 PM   #43
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Adding tens of millions of people from countries of low energy consumption to America - easily the highest consumption nation - is galactically stupid if you really believe humans cause global warming.

So no, you don't really believe we cause any of this. If you did, you'd demand immigration cease immediately.
You haven't delineated your position.

Let's try this -- tell me if I'm wrong.

Prison Bitch believes that climate change is happening, and that humans are the preeminent cause of it. Prison Bitch agrees that the consequences of climate change could be dire, and that preventing amnesty of illegal immigrants would be a useful tool to help prevent them.

How accurate does that sound?
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:01 PM   #44
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You haven't delineated your position.

Let's try this -- tell me if I'm wrong.

Prison Bitch believes that climate change is happening, and that humans are the preeminent cause of it. Prison Bitch agrees that the consequences of climate change could be dire, and that preventing amnesty of illegal immigrants would be a useful tool to help prevent them.

How accurate does that sound?

Let's try this -- tell me if I'm wrong.

Direck believes that climate change is happening, but that humans aren't the preeminent cause of it. Direck agrees that the consequences of climate change could be dire, but that allowing amnesty of illegal immigrants wouldn't be a useful tool to help prevent them.

How accurate does that sound?
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:02 PM   #45
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