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Old 07-09-2013, 12:00 PM  
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The climate of the past decade. Anybody want to guess where it ranks historically?

Did you guess warmest since we've recorded it? Because you're right.

According to the World Meteorological Association's recent report on the past decade's climate.

Here's the forward/summary.



The chart:



We haven't had a climate brouhaha in a while.

What's our line these days, conservatives?

We believe climate change exists, right? Do we agree that humans are the preeminent cause?

Do you have any ideas you personally subscribe to as to what can/should be done?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:03 PM   #46
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Again, if you want to start a thread on illegal immigration, I will post all over that sucker. Ask patteeu, I'm good on my word, brother. You can even put my username in the thread title; I'm there.

I'm asking you to take a stand on this issue. If you do not, because you would rather discuss illegal immigration, I will meet you in another thread on that exact issue.

Last try: Do you believe that climate change is occurring?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:03 PM   #47
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So your position, more or less, is that the research on climate change is, so far, inconclusive?

Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong -- read your post twice, not sure if I got the gist of it.
ya, that's my current position. how can ya correlate an outcome from this much incomplete data.

I also would rather see this chart defined according to season instead of yearly summaries.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:04 PM   #48
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Yes, climate change is real. No, humans aren't the preemptive cause. But humans do contribute. How much is widely debatable.

The problem is that people mistake the political solution for a scientific one. Carbon taxes are retarded, and hardly anyone other than a politician would recommend that as an actual solution. But we absolutely should investigate further and find out more about causes and plan ways to curb it that are based on something other than generating government income..
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:04 PM   #49
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Again, if you want to start a thread on illegal immigration, I will post all over that sucker. Ask patteeu, I'm good on my word, brother. You can even put my username in the thread title; I'm there.

I'm asking you to take a stand on this issue. If you do not, because you would rather discuss illegal immigration, I will meet you in another thread on that exact issue.

Last try: Do you believe that climate change is occurring?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:08 PM   #50
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ya, that's my current position. how can ya correlate an outcome from this much incomplete data.

I also would rather see this chart defined according to season instead of yearly summaries.
Climate models can successfully reproduce all of earth's temperatures since 1900, based on the information that they currently have. This makes them universally recognized as reliably predictive going forward.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:09 PM   #51
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Climate models can successfully reproduce all of earth's temperatures since 1900, based on the information that they currently have. This makes them universally recognized as reliably predictive going forward.
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Yes, climate change is real. No, humans aren't the preemptive cause. But humans do contribute. How much is widely debatable.

The problem is that people mistake the political solution for a scientific one. Carbon taxes are retarded, and hardly anyone other than a politician would recommend that as an actual solution. But we absolutely should investigate further and find out more about causes and plan ways to curb it that are based on something other than generating government income..
Are there policies you would support in that regard? Obviously, you're not a fan of a carbon tax. What would you prefer?

If you don't know, have you ever read an idea to help combat climate change that you thought had at least some good ideas?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:11 PM   #53
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This thread just set mother earth back by a century & its all your fault Direobamashun
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:11 PM   #54
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The Sierra Club nearly split in 1/2 over the immigration issue. So I know there's intelligent life over on the Green fringe. The org was bought off by a huge financial donation to table it. To not to allow them to take a position against immigration. This proves the frauds that many Liberals are when it comes to climate change.


When they want to get serious about population growth, I'll listen to their arguments. But not a second before.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:12 PM   #55
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Would you agree that increased carbon emissions intensify the greenhouse effect?
They can, yes.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:13 PM   #56
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This thread just set mother earth back by a century & its all your fault Direobamashun
Excuse me? My threads are solar-powered.
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Alright.

Do you believe climate change is occurring, however? Do you believe humans are a preeminent cause of it?
I'm willing to accept both for the sake of argument. I'm not confident that we have enough knowledge to know the latter and it's not at all clear to me where science stops and politics begins. It seems like there's some degree of consensus that some long term warming has occurred and it's a no brainer that the climate is always in flux, but I don't believe anyone knows what the degree, the direction, and the consequences are.

I support long term research to improve our understanding and develop more accurate models, but I don't support remedial action that doesn't come as a natural side effect of our efforts to improve our economy, our standard of living, and our standing in the world.
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The Sierra Club nearly split in 1/2 over the immigration issue. So I know there's intelligent life over on the Green fringe. The org was bought off by a huge financial donation to table it. To not to allow them to take a position against immigration. This proves the frauds that many Liberals are when it comes to climate change.

When they want to get serious about population growth, I'll listen to their arguments. But not a second before.
Welp, nobody can say I didn't give it the ol' college try.
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This thread just set Mother Earth back by a century & its all your fault Direobamashun
Don't moonbats call Mother Earth "Gaia" or something like that?

I wonder if Direobamashun knows how much coal has to be burnt to provide him with enough electricity to stay on the internet all day.
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Climate models can successfully reproduce all of earth's temperatures since 1900, based on the information that they currently have. This makes them universally recognized as reliably predictive going forward.


I admit that I really don't follow this issue very closely, but I remember something a while back that basically said that predicted temperature increases over the last decade (or whatever) ended up being drastically higher than what actually happened. Is that not the case?

If so, I don't see how you can make the above claim with any degree of intellectual honesty.
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