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Old 07-09-2013, 12:00 PM  
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The climate of the past decade. Anybody want to guess where it ranks historically?

Did you guess warmest since we've recorded it? Because you're right.

According to the World Meteorological Association's recent report on the past decade's climate.

Here's the forward/summary.



The chart:



We haven't had a climate brouhaha in a while.

What's our line these days, conservatives?

We believe climate change exists, right? Do we agree that humans are the preeminent cause?

Do you have any ideas you personally subscribe to as to what can/should be done?
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:55 AM   #121
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Which is exactly the point some of us have been making. Global warming alarmists use a decade or 50years or 100 years or 150 years of data to try and scare folks that man must be causing a warming trend. It is irrelevant to the pattern over longer time frames.
Well I wouldn't say irrelevant. There has been plenty of fear mongering going on with climate change for sure. I wouldn't deny that. But at the same time, the rate at which temperatures have been changing since the industrial revolution is a little disconcerting.



That said, it's quite possible that it could plateau and then drop again at the same rate in 5,000 years and put us in a mini ice age without mankind doing anything different. I don't think we know enough to say we have to drastically change what we're doing or charge people for ridiculous carbon taxes or anything. Scientists are not even confidently sure that we could effectively revert it if we tried to. It's possible we could make it worse by trying to fix it...

But there is sufficient evidence to show that climate is changing at a rate not seen in any previous paleoclimatic studies. And it's clear that man has had some to do with that. I wouldn't say what percent, but we are contributing. What can be done or if it could be done? Who knows. Let's research more before taking drastic action...
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:16 PM   #122
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How did they get CO2 measurements thousands of years ago?


Not arguing, just interested.
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:43 PM   #123
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How did they get CO2 measurements thousands of years ago?
Pulling numbers out of a hat
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:37 PM   #124
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67 degrees in Chicago right now. Lowest high temperate in recorded history.

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Old 07-27-2013, 04:44 PM   #125
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Well I wouldn't say irrelevant. There has been plenty of fear mongering going on with climate change for sure. I wouldn't deny that. But at the same time, the rate at which temperatures have been changing since the industrial revolution is a little disconcerting.



That said, it's quite possible that it could plateau and then drop again at the same rate in 5,000 years and put us in a mini ice age without mankind doing anything different. I don't think we know enough to say we have to drastically change what we're doing or charge people for ridiculous carbon taxes or anything. Scientists are not even confidently sure that we could effectively revert it if we tried to. It's possible we could make it worse by trying to fix it...

But there is sufficient evidence to show that climate is changing at a rate not seen in any previous paleoclimatic studies. And it's clear that man has had some to do with that. I wouldn't say what percent, but we are contributing. What can be done or if it could be done? Who knows. Let's research more before taking drastic action...
A well reasoned and almost perfect post on the subject! Posts like this restore my faith that there are still rational people out there.

I say "almost perfect" because though your graph is completely accurate on CO2 levels recent data shows that CO2 has a MUCH smaller effect on climate and temperature then we thought. Like you said, there's still a ton of things we are just barely able to understand at this point.
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:47 PM   #126
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It's called Paleoclimatology.
Unfortunately Paleoclimatology is still a crapload of "best guesses" and we are constantly finding conflicting data and flaws in the methodology. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep working at it and push the science forward but it does mean that it needs to be looked at with a certain degree more skepticism than hard data would.
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:00 PM   #127
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Well I wouldn't say irrelevant. There has been plenty of fear mongering going on with climate change for sure. I wouldn't deny that. But at the same time, the rate at which temperatures have been changing since the industrial revolution is a little disconcerting.



That said, it's quite possible that it could plateau and then drop again at the same rate in 5,000 years and put us in a mini ice age without mankind doing anything different. I don't think we know enough to say we have to drastically change what we're doing or charge people for ridiculous carbon taxes or anything. Scientists are not even confidently sure that we could effectively revert it if we tried to. It's possible we could make it worse by trying to fix it...

But there is sufficient evidence to show that climate is changing at a rate not seen in any previous paleoclimatic studies. And it's clear that man has had some to do with that. I wouldn't say what percent, but we are contributing. What can be done or if it could be done? Who knows. Let's research more before taking drastic action...
Right, and exactly how many samples have been taken and from where? Really enough and from enough places to come up with an accurate average for the planet? If so, what's the + and -?
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:45 PM   #128
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Bah it's the new math their using. Like school grades everything is inflated now!
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:14 PM   #129
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I think that we should do everything in our power to move toward clean energy, but I just roll my eyes when I see a chart that goes past 100-150 years of history.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:13 PM   #130
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Nevermind that companies in big oil paid for years have paid scientists to lie about CO2 levels, global warming and such. The socialist liberals running this country are trying to get rid of our clean burning coal plants because coal is oil's biggest competitor. For every coal plant they're shutting down here they're opening up 3 more over in China while our jobs/manufacturing and cheap energy are going overseas.

By the way we bailed out Chevrolet...and then our tax dollars are PAYING THEM to move their factories overseas and we lose the jobs in the end. How do you guys like that ****ing shit?

They want to de-industrialize the United States and bankrupt our economy and force us to pay for the air we breathe because they think they're kings. Plain n simple.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:19 PM   #131
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Nevermind that companies in big oil paid for years have paid scientists to lie about CO2 levels, global warming and such. The socialist liberals running this country are trying to get rid of our clean burning coal plants because coal is oil's biggest competitor. For every coal plant they're shutting down here they're opening up 3 more over in China while our jobs/manufacturing and cheap energy are going overseas.

By the way we bailed out Chevrolet...and then our tax dollars are PAYING THEM to move their factories overseas and we lose the jobs in the end. How do you guys like that ****ing shit?

They want to de-industrialize the United States and bankrupt our economy and force us to pay for the air we breathe because they think they're kings. Plain n simple.
Who are "they"?
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:05 PM   #132
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Nevermind that companies in big oil paid for years have paid scientists to lie about CO2 levels, global warming and such. The socialist liberals running this country are trying to get rid of our clean burning coal plants because coal is oil's biggest competitor. For every coal plant they're shutting down here they're opening up 3 more over in China while our jobs/manufacturing and cheap energy are going overseas.

By the way we bailed out Chevrolet...and then our tax dollars are PAYING THEM to move their factories overseas and we lose the jobs in the end. How do you guys like that ****ing shit?

They want to de-industrialize the United States and bankrupt our economy and force us to pay for the air we breathe because they think they're kings. Plain n simple.
I read big oil is also behind shutting down clean coal. The cartel capitalists are at it again.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:19 PM   #133
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How did they get CO2 measurements thousands of years ago?


Not arguing, just interested.
ice cores from the arctic and antarctic,m glaciers


not a fact just a guess
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:21 PM   #134
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I dont understand why ppl even care. I do not care what happens to the climate, this much I assure you. It wont matter in my lifetime. I have like 50 years left to live. Sounds like a good deal to me if the temperatures rise. If I ever became immortal or my life expectancy increased to 500 yrs I might begin to care. My plan is to be as wreckless as possible because I do not care about your grandchildrens grandchildren.
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I think that we should do everything in our power to move toward clean energy, but I just roll my eyes when I see a chart that goes past 100-150 years of history.
Is it going to be cheaper? No. I vote no then . I vote the cheapest energy possible.
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