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Old 07-12-2013, 10:59 PM  
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Why My Brain Is On Fire

Comprehensive immigration reform.

That's it. That's why my brain is on fire.

You have:

1. A fair bill to have emerged from the Senate, with a huge majority.

2. A POTUS who would sign this thing in a heartbeat.

3. A House that, if this bill were to come up for a vote today, would easily pass with unanimous Democratic support and solid moderate Republican support.

4. Huge majorities of Americans that favor stronger border protection and path to citizenships.

5. The demographic future of the Republican Party potentially on the line.

And somehow, some way, this bill will not become law. Because the House won't even put it up for a vote.

For the most trite reason of all: because not enough Republicans support it. Even though it would certainly pass if it a vote was held. Even though it's conventional wisdom suggests this could cost them latino voters for a generation. Even though the public voted for Democrats over Republicans for POTUS, the Senate, and the House. And the only reason the Republicans have the House in the first place is because they gerrymandered themselves into it.

But that's it. The bill will not even get a vote in the House.

Otherwise, it's getting signed this weekend, becomes law of the land, provides this country with a gigantic economic boost, helps bring unprotected millions out of the shadows, drastically cuts into illegal immigration, and provides valentines for DREAMers, high-skilled workers, and others.

But, despite everything, this is not happening.

My brain. Is on fire.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:26 PM   #31
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It's really sad that Direckshun wants to harm our hispanic and black workers at the bottom of the wage rung by importing more direct competition for their labor. It's amazing he claims to "care" about our poor while supporting a bill that will hammer them economically. But then, that's why the phrase limosine-liberal came about. People like Direck.
Better economies are better for everybody. Including the working poor, who depend on good economies far more than everybody else.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:27 PM   #32
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This bill doesn't strengthen the border
It will cut the current flow of illegal immigration by 50%.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:31 PM   #33
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:37 PM   #34
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That doesn't quite explain why a bill with total democratic support on every level is failing to even get a vote.
Would a bill from the house getting full republican support get a vote?
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:40 PM   #35
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:42 PM   #36
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Would a bill from the house getting full republican support get a vote?
Sure.

Is that the only option we get?
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:43 PM   #37
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Sure.

Is that the only option we get?
Is it better than the one we have?
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:46 PM   #38
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Is it better than the one we have?
I like the option of putting the bill we have up for a vote.

Since, you know, it would pass. And become law. And receive large public support. And help people, and improve the country.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:50 PM   #39
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I like the option of putting the bill we have up for a vote.

Since, you know, it would pass. And become law. And receive large public support. And help people, and improve the country.
Is this why people called in droves complaining about this last time and are doing so again? Plus, polls do NOTH back you on this.
Yeah riiiiiiiiight it would get large public support!
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I like the option of putting the bill we have up for a vote.

Since, you know, it would pass. And become law. And receive large public support. And help people, and improve the country.
I disagree it would pass.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:57 PM   #41
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I disagree it would pass.
201 Democrats. Only need 17 Republicans out of 234.

I'm willing to bet, since the bill earned 30% of Senate GOP's support, that it easily earns the 7% of the House GOP's support that it would need.

Call me crazy.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:04 PM   #42
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:20 PM   #43
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201 Democrats. Only need 17 Republicans out of 234.

I'm willing to bet, since the bill earned 30% of Senate GOP's support, that it easily earns the 7% of the House GOP's support that it would need.

Call me crazy.
If the house republicans vow to put border protection as their first priority a vote on the senate bill doesn't need a vote.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:24 PM   #44
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If the house republicans vow to put border protection as their first priority a vote on the senate bill doesn't need a vote.
And that's different from the Senate GOP's vow... how?
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:22 AM   #45
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The CBO report says it'll raise unemployment, doofus.
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