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Old 07-14-2013, 06:42 PM  
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:55 PM   #91
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Laughable.
Yeah, he didn't really give up those sacks.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:57 PM   #92
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Yeah, he didn't really give up those sacks.
What was the situation? Did the receiver fall down? Did the running back miss his block? Did the QB step on someone's foot? Who was Clady facing?

There are multiple reasons why a LT could be given a sack, least of all having Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton under center.

Furthermore, the Sportswriter's of America just don't give out All Pro designations, especially since they're voted on by committee, so to say that Clady regressed is...

Laughable.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:02 PM   #93
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What was the situation? Did the receiver fall down? Did the running back miss his block? Did the QB step on someone's foot? Who was Clady facing?

There are multiple reasons why a LT could be given a sack, least of all having Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton under center.
What about having Tyler Thigpen, Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Matt Cassel, Kyle Orton, and Brady Quinn under center?

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Furthermore, the Sportswriter's of America just don't give out All Pro designations, especially since they're voted on by committee, so to say that Clady regressed is...

Laughable.
He was neither on the 2010 nor the 2011 All pro teams. He had a good rookie year and a good 2012 (because of Manning). Doesn't change anything that I've said. He was still on a downward trend of sacks allowed before Manning.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:07 PM   #94
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What about having Tyler Thigpen, Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Matt Cassel, Kyle Orton, and Brady Quinn under center?


He was neither on the 2010 nor the 2011 All pro teams. He had a good rookie year and a good 2012 (because of Manning). Doesn't change anything that I've said. He was still on a downward trend of sacks allowed before Manning.
Well clearly, NFL talent evaluators and sportswriters agree.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:07 PM   #95
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Clady Played well when he had a real NFL quarterback to block for.

It's no coincidence that his best years were with Cutler and Manning under center.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:09 PM   #96
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Well clearly, NFL talent evaluators and sportswriters agree.
That he played well only when blocking for franchise QBs? That's not that hard to do. Albert has played well while blocking for some of the worst quarterbacks in the league the past 5 years.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:11 PM   #97
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That would be just fine by me.

I really hope the Chiefs didn't draft a guy at 1.1 to let him sit behind an average left tackle for the next five years.
That's why I want Albert to switch positions. He's a good OL. I'd like to keep him if the price is right.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:22 PM   #98
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That he played well only when blocking for franchise QBs? That's not that hard to do. Albert has played well while blocking for some of the worst quarterbacks in the league the past 5 years.
I don't think you're watching Albert or Clady.

I think you're looking at stats as the determination as to how well each player has performed.

That's bogus, but whatever.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:23 PM   #99
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That's why I want Albert to switch positions. He's a good OL. I'd like to keep him if the price is right.
Not happening. Albert doesn't care if he makes LT money as a RT, he won't play there. I just don't understand how some people so easily dismiss pride...

That said, they will sign him to the most team friendly deal they can get him to ink, and not have to worry about the bookends for the next 3 years (give or take). At which point they'll let Albert walk, slide Fischer over and still be in a pretty good position on the OL.
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I don't think you're watching Albert or Clady.

I think you're looking at stats as the determination as to how well each player has performed.

That's bogus, but whatever.
I'm looking at stats and I'm looking at performance. Albert like Clady has never been a liability. Like OTWP said a few months ago, I've never gone into a game worried about how Albert is going to perform against a certain pass rusher. He's a great LT that's never had the luxury of playing with a QB with any resemblance of pocket presence.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:28 PM   #101
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I don't think you're watching Albert or Clady.

I think you're looking at stats as the determination as to how well each player has performed.

That's bogus, but whatever.
Not especially. Just b/c Albert's technique looks like a soup sandwich, doesn't mean he doesn't get the job done.

Clady gets way too much respect from idiot media pundits based on the hype that surrounded his rookie season. He really isn't a whole hell of a lot better than Albert, but he does get much more respect.
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I'm looking at stats and I'm looking at performance. Albert like Clady has never been a liability. Like OTWP said a few months ago, I've never gone into a game worried about how Albert is going to perform against a certain pass rusher. He's a great LT that's never had the luxury of playing with a QB with any resemblance of pocket presence.
Tru dat.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:44 PM   #103
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Not especially. Just b/c Albert's technique looks like a soup sandwich, doesn't mean he doesn't get the job done.

Clady gets way too much respect from idiot media pundits based on the hype that surrounded his rookie season. He really isn't a whole hell of a lot better than Albert, but he does get much more respect.
The same "Media Pundits" that sent six Chiefs to the Pro Bowl in 2012 on a 2-14 team?



The bottom line is that if the Chiefs had even a decent offer for Albert, he'd have been gone. They didn't, so he's a Chief.

And once again, this forum overestimates his value.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:45 PM   #104
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I'm looking at stats and I'm looking at performance. Albert like Clady has never been a liability. Like OTWP said a few months ago, I've never gone into a game worried about how Albert is going to perform against a certain pass rusher. He's a great LT that's never had the luxury of playing with a QB with any resemblance of pocket presence.
If he was "great" he'd have been paid like he was "great" and the Chiefs would have rolled the dice on a different position at 1.1.

Or, someone would have given up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for a "great" left tackle.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:10 PM   #105
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If if wasn't for Manning, Clady wouldn't have got anything close to that deal. He's regressed since he got into the league.

In 2008, he allowed 0.5 sacks. (rookie year with Cutler)
2009, 8 sacks. (blew out knee in offseason)
2010, 7.5 sacks (Orton the statue was QB)
2011, 9 sacks. (Orton and then Tebow were QBs)

And finally 1 sack last year with Manning.
See above in bold.

Clady has never missed a game, and that is with blowing out one knee playing basketball in the offseason. He's been the LT for 4 different QBs--Cutler, Orton, Tebow and now Manning.

He's pretty darn good.
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