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Old 07-16-2013, 09:59 PM  
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Interesting Study Regarding US Nonbelievers, Re: Categories Of Atheism

On June 6th of this year at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga (UTC) Departments of Psychology and Learning and Leadership, completed research focused on nonbelief within the United States. This project was designed and implemented by Christopher F. Silver doctoral candidate and Thomas J. Coleman III a student at UTC. The research sought to explore the complexities of nonbelief identity in the United States.

http://www.atheismresearch.com/
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:27 PM   #31
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There is nothing wrong whatsoever about people questioning religion. You are not required to believe yourself.


The problem exists when those who don't believe execute the same actions and prejudices to those who hold religious views that they feel they are the victims of themselves.

It's a problem all humans have. It's not good enough to know you're right, you have to beat an opposing view into the ground. You must hear from their mouths that you're right in order to satisfy one's own insecurity. Problem is religion and politics are two deeply held beliefs that people will fight to the death over.

It is an exercise in futility that is best left to each their own.
Then why do you post in DC at all?
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:29 PM   #32
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You are such a lying hypocritical douche bag.

At least ****ing own your shit you little ****ing ****.
Cool story bro. Is there a fee to subscribe to your website / newsletter.

PS hope the hangover isn't too bad tomorrow.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:15 AM   #33
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The funny thing is that Dave Lane does go out of his way sometimes to (for lack of a better term) "promote" atheism, and he is outspoken about it, but I think he does it by reflex. From what I see from personal experience people tend to automatically group you into a religious belief. In this country people tend to just assume that you are some type of Christian. Failing that they want to be assured that you belong to some other acceptable religious group. As an atheist/agnostic/etc...once you've put up with decades of mindless proselytizing, you tend to want to cut to the chase and get down to actual conversation if the other person is up to it. If they aren't then you just don't tend to discuss religious issues with them. The quicker you get that worked out the better. It saves time, and it saves you from hearing the same tired old regurgitated "arguments" over and over again.
It's like you've hung out with me before. I'm similar to that IRL. Online I just don't give enough of a shit to argue with endless bible quotes.

I simply have no tolerance or time to "convert" people to athiesm. However I'm perfectly happy to have those discussions with people who are willing to not rely on, "Bcuz bible sez so".
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:45 AM   #34
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Then why do you post in DC at all?
The real question is, knowing what I told you, why do you?
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:10 AM   #35
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The real question is, knowing what I told you, why do you?
Because I don't agree with your premise. So again, why do you post here?

Obviously politics is a waste and so is religion so....
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Old 07-18-2013, 06:58 AM   #36
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:42 AM   #37
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However I'm perfectly happy to have those discussions with people who are willing to not rely on, "Bcuz bible sez so".
Kinda like dealing with people saying "Because Obama told me so." Same deal.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:46 AM   #38
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It's like you've hung out with me before. I'm similar to that IRL. Online I just don't give enough of a shit to argue with endless bible quotes.

I simply have no tolerance or time to "convert" people to athiesm. However I'm perfectly happy to have those discussions with people who are willing to not rely on, "Bcuz bible sez so".
I enjoy indepth interesting debates on religion in real life but its hard to find. I've convinced many people that the is no evidence for religion and had them change their position. Online they just run away because there is no defense that works.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:00 AM   #39
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I enjoy indepth interesting debates on religion in real life but its hard to find. I've convinced many people that the is no evidence for religion and had them change their position. Online they just run away because there is no defense that works.
I've seen plenty of evidence for religion. Religion definitely exists. I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:36 AM   #40
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Religion exists obviously, but the is zero proof or evidence of any of the supernatural claims religion makes.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:26 AM   #41
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Religion exists obviously, but the is zero proof or evidence of any of the supernatural claims religion makes.
But that's the whole point isn't it? It's based on faith - well at least Christianity is.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:29 AM   #42
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I enjoy indepth interesting debates on religion in real life but its hard to find. I've convinced many people that the is no evidence for religion and had them change their position.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


WHat a ****ing idiot.......


Holy shit.....

You are a humongous ****ing moron with no friends. How could anyone even stand to be in the same room with you? Do you listen to yourself?

WOuld you enjoy a conversation with yourself?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:41 AM   #43
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I'm agnostic.

Personally, i feel that this world needs Christians. Some people need faith. They need to believe in a higher being and it keeps a lot of people's heads on straight.

If religion enables you to incorporate morality into your life, then by all means, be a Christian.

What i DON'T like is that fact that Christianity puts the fear of God into the heads of small children. They grow up with that fear. When i use to have these conversations with my wife, she hated talking about it because the thought of God not being real bothered her. It made her feel guilty for questioning its existence.

That's what the fear of god does to people. The fear of the unknown. Fear is a powerful emotion and no organization knows how to play it better than a Religion.

I keep my 6 yr old son away from religion or any talk about God. It is not allowed in my home around him. My Mother in law is very religious and i refuse to let her take him to church.

Not because i don't want him to be a christian, but because i want him to be able to, when he's old enough, make a logical decision on what faith he wants to follow. Whether that be Christianity, atheism, Buddhism or even becoming a Muslim. I don't care.

I just dont want fear to be a determining factor in his decision.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:43 AM   #44
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I enjoy indepth interesting debates on religion in real life but its hard to find. I've convinced many people that the is no evidence for religion and had them change their position.
That's called being an asshole.

If they want to be Christians, let them be Christians.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:59 PM   #45
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That's called being an asshole.

If they want to be Christians, let them be Christians.
You wouldn't try to change an Obama fans mind?
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