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Old 07-18-2013, 11:34 PM  
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Spawn of Cheney Attempting to Carpetbag her way as a Wyoming Senator

Liz Cheney’s biggest challenge: The carpetbagger label
By Sean Sullivan, Published: July 17 at 1:00 pm

This much we know about the Wyoming Senate race: Liz Cheney will be accused of being a carpetbagger. Probably often.

“A challenge for Ms. Cheney will be countering charges that she isn’t really from Wyoming, given the many years living elsewhere before re-establishing residency last year,” said University of Wyoming political scientist Jim King.
Cheney purchased a home in Jackson Hole in 2012. Before that, she lived in northern Virginia, where she graduated from high school. Cheney went to college in Colorado and law school in Illinois.

The Wyoming media and political world has taken notice. One paper offered a harsh assessment of the prospect of Cheney’s candidacy before she announced her campaign.

“Hey, Liz Cheney: If you want to run for U.S. Senate, try it from Virginia or some other state,” the Gillette News Record wrote in an editorial published Sunday. “We already have a U.S. senator — one who has spent his life in Wyoming, one who took on the unenviable job of leading Gillette through the boom in the ’70s and ’80s.”

And Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R) told reporters this on Tuesday: “It is a unique strategy to live your entire life elsewhere and then come to a state a year before you’re going to announce you’re going to run for that state’s highest office.”

What we don’t know is whether or not it will sink her bid to unseat Sen. Mike Enzi in the Republican primary, or fade into the background. But it’s already become a big part of her narrative, and one that she will have to overcome to win.

Ouch.

Cheney is not going to leave questions about her allegiance to Wyoming floating in the wind. In her Tuesday announcement video, she noted that her family has deep roots in the state, first settling there in 1852 “in search of religious freedom.” She also sought to underscore that she is in touch with the state’s issues. And remember that her father, former vice president Dick Cheney, represented Wyoming in the House for a decade.

“My sense is, as far the carpetbagger charge, is it’s from people who don’t want to talk about substance, don’t want to talk about the issues,” Cheney told the Associated Press.

The carpetbagger label doesn’t necessarily have to be a deadly political blow. Hillary Clinton’s successful 2000 New York Senate campaign is proof of this. So is Dan Coats’s 2010 Indiana Senate bid. Going back further, Robert F. Kennedy’s 1964 Senate campaign success is another example.
What makes Cheney’s challenge different, though, is that Wyoming is a small state with a unique culture where retail politics matter and face time is worth its weight in gold.

What’s more, Enzi’s record wasn’t exactly crying out for a primary challenge. He’s received generally high marks from conservative groups. Even Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) likes the guy. So the argument that Cheney uprooted herself and stepped up to challenge an incumbent who was asking for it isn’t likely to go very far.

The key for Cheney will be to steer the conversation away from the question of whether she is an opportunist and scrutiny about where she has spent most of her life. If she can do that, she’ll have a decent chance. She is expected to raise a lot of money, after all.

But if she allows the carpetbagger question to linger in the campaign, it will be hard to hang in. Just ask Richard Lugar, whose bungled responses over several months to questions about his residency made it easy for his opponent to paint him as out of touch and ultimately defeat him last year.

The bottom line is that unless Cheney can find clear ways to cast the spotlight on Enzi’s record (a generational contrast seems to be what she is chiefly going for at this point, and that’s far from a surefire critique of Enzi), Cheney can expect her own past to come under just as much scrutiny.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...tbagger-label/
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:36 PM   #2
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I'm from Idaho, and knowing what I know about this region of the US, I don't think she's really got much of a chance. She'll have a lot of money - so there's that. But this is the 'know your neighbor, but mind your own business' part of the world. I will be really surprised if she's able to pull the wool on their eyes and convince them that she would make a good representative for them in the senate. Especially with the aggressive language she's using against Enzi's age. I think she shows she's an outsider with just that. That stuff flies in the aggressive south - in the North, they respect their elders.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:38 PM   #3
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By the way patt, I constructed that headline just for your benefit...
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:43 PM   #4
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Erickson said wyoming could be the hill where neo conservatism dies
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:47 PM   #5
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Erickson said wyoming could be the hill where neo conservatism dies
I think it's already dead, it just waiting for Darth Vader to take off his helmet and die. That may be too optimistic though, considering we have a neocon in the whitehouse (I said it), and Hillary still on deck.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:54 PM   #6
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:01 AM   #7
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I think it's already dead, it just waiting for Darth Vader to take off his helmet and die. That may be too optimistic though, considering we have a neocon in the whitehouse (I said it), and Hillary still on deck.
ya, to kill the neocon you'd have to bankrupt the criminal culture already in charge. there is nothing conservative going on in america's leadership. absolutely nothing.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:43 AM   #8
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:11 AM   #9
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The subtitle on this thread should be: Paul's neo-isolationist faction of GOP sweats.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:16 AM   #10
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By the way patt, I constructed that headline just for your benefit...
Wish I had more time to mix it up in here with you, brother...
Yeah, your participation is missed.

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:43 AM   #11
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NeoCons murdered the GOP, hopefully the GOP base murders them back by never allowing them (or their moron voters) to ever get any influence again in the party.
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NeoCons murdered the GOP, hopefully the GOP base murders them back by never allowing them (or their moron voters) to ever get any influence again in the party.
Who? Reagan?
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:52 AM   #13
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Yeah, your participation is missed.

(Are you still watching pro starcraft? It's better than ever these days.)
I'm hopelessly addicted to SC2, both playing and watching. I thought the WCS was amazing, especially as they started to get to the final two weeks.

And yes, we are sweating this race. A Cheney in the Senate would be a big setback for America, as well as the positive reforms the Republicans have been making towards being a party worth being a part of. It would be a shame to see us regress back into the dark era...
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:23 AM   #14
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Carpetbagger in this sense would mean she's from Wyoming and trying to take advantage. The correct term in this sense is Scallywag because she's from another place.

Remember Carpetbaggers were from the South. Scallywags were from the North. Both profitting in the South.
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:40 AM   #15
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Carpetbagger in this sense would mean she's from Wyoming and trying to take advantage. The correct term in this sense is Scallywag because she's from another place.

Remember Carpetbaggers were from the South. Scallywags were from the North. Both profitting in the South.
I think you've got that backwards.
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