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Old 07-26-2013, 08:24 PM  
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Teicher:On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look

On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Andy Reid delivered a not-so-subtle message Friday with the first play at Chiefs training camp. He had quarterback Alex Smith heave a pass deep down the middle that was hauled in for a touchdown by wide receiver Dexter McCluster.

The play served notice that after two seasons with a dormant passing attack, the Chiefs intend to revive it in a big way.

“I wasn’t ready for that,” Smith said. “I came up and I got a good look for it. Crowd pleaser.”

Much more needs to happen before the passing game can be called successful. But the intent is obviously there. Smith completed another deep pass to McCluster a few plays later.

As much as Reid enjoyed the big plays, he liked the consistency of the passing game. Smith, who completed 70 percent of his passes for the 49ers last season, went several plays into practice before throwing his first incompletion.

“There weren’t a lot of balls on the ground, and it looked like the defense had people covered,” Reid said. “They were in position.”

The trade for Smith was the biggest of the offseason moves aimed at revitalizing a sluggish offense. Smith, the first pick in the 2005 draft and San Francisco’s long-time starter, is used to such pressure.

“I’m much better equipped to handle it now,” Smith said. “When you’re a young guy and coming in and playing early, I dwelled on (negative things) too much. I let it affect my play too much. I tried to please everybody.

“I’m going to play my game. I’m going to try to work as hard as I can to get as good as I can and try to reach my potential and win a bunch of games. That’s the goal. I’m not worried about a bunch of other things.”

Smith received another peek at the expectations waiting for him at the end of practice, when a fan called to him asking Smith to be the Chiefs’ savior.

“That’s a strong word,” Smith said. “That’s a great example. When I was younger, I would have taken that literally. I tried to make every single throw and I tried to prove to everybody on every single play that, yeah, I could do this.”

That McCluster was on the receiving end of Smith’s long passes was another bonus for the Chiefs. They practiced without their most accomplished receiver, Dwayne Bowe, who is on the non-football injury list with a viral condition.

Bowe may return to practice as soon as Saturday. But no matter when he plays, the Chiefs are still in search of a consistent threat to go along with him. The diminutive McCluster has long tantalized the Chiefs with his big-play ability, but he has delivered precious few such plays since arriving as a rookie in 2010.

He bounced from receiver to running back and again to receiver, never seeming to find a comfortable spot. While it’s far too early to call him a changed player in Reid’s offense, it’s a start.

“It’s always good to start a first practice … with a big one,” McCluster said. “I’m happy I held on to the ball.”

Reid’s arrival could rescue McCluster’s career, which stalled last season under coach Romeo Crennel. Reid, then coaching the Philadelphia Eagles, was intrigued by McCluster when he was available in the 2010 draft.

The Chiefs got to him first, but Reid began making plans for McCluster shortly after arriving in Kansas City in January.

“He gives you a little flexibility,” Reid said. “You can move him around a Iittle. We’ll use him here and there.”

During offseason practice and again on Friday, McCluster lined up in a variety of spots.

“I don’t know where he couldn’t line up, to be honest, as far as skill positions go,” Smith said. “He’s got that many tools in the belt.”

Another offensive player the Chiefs are counting on is rookie running back Knile Davis. The Chiefs hope he can be turned into a kickoff return specialist, even though he never returned a kick during a game in college at Arkansas.

That process got off to a rough start Friday when Davis, who was a frequent fumbler in college, dropped a kickoff.

“We’ll get that fixed,” Reid said.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:19 PM   #181
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Two years is a goddamn eternity. That's two years of Charles, Flowers, Bowe, Hali and DJ we're wasting. That's two years we're not developing a potential franchise QB.
That's you saying that, without knowing what Reids thoughts, and plans are for Bray.....And yes, Bray has the physical talent to be a franchise qb.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:20 PM   #182
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I'm just saying there's no leeway or excuses or slack after this year if that's the case. Make the moves we made this offseason=no "learning" year.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:20 PM   #183
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It completely depends on this season. Going 5-11 and throwing as many picks as TDs, ala Cassel, and I don't think there will be an extension.
I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:20 PM   #184
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Id have to go dig through the trade thread of when it was announced. Off the top of my head, I don't know. I spend so much time arguing with Clay lol.....
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:21 PM   #185
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I'm just saying there's no leeway or excuses or slack after this year if that's the case. Make the moves we made this offseason=no "learning" year.
I 100% agree with this and have said so all along.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:21 PM   #186
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I really doubt that. I have been doing the forum thing for a long time now. I treat people with respect until they show me they no longer deserve it. I like things civil.. but no, I can throw dirt as well, if people can't be respectful.

Much like Mav stated, I was pretty shocked that people were so nasty and miserable here. Whenever a fan from another team came over to talk up a player that was traded to SF? All the SF fans and I had very cool discussions with them. That was certainly not the case here... but oooooh well.
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I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.
I don't think Alex Smith wanted the extension, as much so as it was the Chiefs not wanting to give one to him. He has an out clause after this year that basically means the Chiefs could pay him nothing and move on if need be. I think Alex Smith, also wanted to be able to choose where he wanted to be, and he wasn't able to do that. I think its very business smart, on both parts.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:22 PM   #188
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Exactly.

They didn't like the QB's in the draft? Fine.

But if that's the case, and it were up to me, I would have saved those two early 2nd round picks and picked up another stopgap and started building for the future.

Instead, they chose to overspend on a guy that an elite team has been trying to get rid of for three years. They've made nothing but "win now" moves. You're goddamn right I expect them to win now.
The picks were not two early 2nds. One was. This years.

Next years is only a 2nd roundr if we are 8-8... which would put us at mid to late 2nd, depending just how far over 8 wins we might happen to go.

7-9 or worse is a 3rd rounder. So mid to high 3rd rounder depending how many wins less than 7.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:22 PM   #189
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I'm skeptical as to whether they could consistently win at a championship game level (conference or league) with him, but I think he could ride the team to wild card or division wins if everything is built strongly enough around him. That said, I don't expect we'd ever see anything like last offseason's performance by Flacco out of him, though.
Pretty damn close to my thoughts.

He might be able to win a playoff game with an elite defense, or just a ridiculously great defensive effort in one game.

He's not going to put a team on his back and carry them through the playoffs.

Alex Smith is like stopping at $10,000 on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. The money is nice, but it's not life-changing.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:23 PM   #190
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Id have to go dig through the trade thread of when it was announced. Off the top of my head, I don't know. I spend so much time arguing with Clay lol.....
Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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That's you saying that, without knowing what Reids thoughts, and plans are for Bray.....And yes, Bray has the physical talent to be a franchise qb.
People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

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Pretty damn close to my thoughts.

He might be able to win a playoff game with an elite defense, or just a ridiculously great defensive effort in one game.

He's not going to put a team on his back and carry them through the playoffs.

Alex Smith is like stopping at $10,000 on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. The money is nice, but it's not life-changing.
That honestly, is my biggest problem here. You guys don't know shit about what Alex Smith can and cant do. This will be the first year that he will be given complete confidence, and control by his head coach. Every single head coach he has had, has been a run first coach. Hell, Jim Harbaugh, still ran the ball more than he threw with Kaepernick. And I keep hearing people say, if Alex is asked to throw more, hes going to fail. It depends on the throws. If he is still making the short throws that lead to Bowe, or Avery or a tight end, getting a first down, or making their own yards, why would he fail? He has proven to be very VERY good at that. You don't have the personnel to chuck it up all the time. he doesn't have Desean Jackson, and Jeremy Maclin to throw to.

That's why I have said over and over, I have no idea how this is going to pan out, but using anything from San Francisco, as a barometer of how he is going to do here, is stupid, and uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:27 PM   #194
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People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?
That's a holdover of the Carl Peterson mentality. It's not safe to draft a QB high, but it is safe to pick one up in the mid to late rounds, or even better as a UDFA because if he fails, well, you didn't lose anything but cash.

You only draft "safe" positions early. Like tackles. Insert gleeful draft gif here.
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People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

This one has baffled me for quite some time. Hell, we have 3 or 4 posters reserving a spot in Canton for Bray already.
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