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Old 07-26-2013, 07:24 PM  
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Teicher:On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look

On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Andy Reid delivered a not-so-subtle message Friday with the first play at Chiefs training camp. He had quarterback Alex Smith heave a pass deep down the middle that was hauled in for a touchdown by wide receiver Dexter McCluster.

The play served notice that after two seasons with a dormant passing attack, the Chiefs intend to revive it in a big way.

“I wasn’t ready for that,” Smith said. “I came up and I got a good look for it. Crowd pleaser.”

Much more needs to happen before the passing game can be called successful. But the intent is obviously there. Smith completed another deep pass to McCluster a few plays later.

As much as Reid enjoyed the big plays, he liked the consistency of the passing game. Smith, who completed 70 percent of his passes for the 49ers last season, went several plays into practice before throwing his first incompletion.

“There weren’t a lot of balls on the ground, and it looked like the defense had people covered,” Reid said. “They were in position.”

The trade for Smith was the biggest of the offseason moves aimed at revitalizing a sluggish offense. Smith, the first pick in the 2005 draft and San Francisco’s long-time starter, is used to such pressure.

“I’m much better equipped to handle it now,” Smith said. “When you’re a young guy and coming in and playing early, I dwelled on (negative things) too much. I let it affect my play too much. I tried to please everybody.

“I’m going to play my game. I’m going to try to work as hard as I can to get as good as I can and try to reach my potential and win a bunch of games. That’s the goal. I’m not worried about a bunch of other things.”

Smith received another peek at the expectations waiting for him at the end of practice, when a fan called to him asking Smith to be the Chiefs’ savior.

“That’s a strong word,” Smith said. “That’s a great example. When I was younger, I would have taken that literally. I tried to make every single throw and I tried to prove to everybody on every single play that, yeah, I could do this.”

That McCluster was on the receiving end of Smith’s long passes was another bonus for the Chiefs. They practiced without their most accomplished receiver, Dwayne Bowe, who is on the non-football injury list with a viral condition.

Bowe may return to practice as soon as Saturday. But no matter when he plays, the Chiefs are still in search of a consistent threat to go along with him. The diminutive McCluster has long tantalized the Chiefs with his big-play ability, but he has delivered precious few such plays since arriving as a rookie in 2010.

He bounced from receiver to running back and again to receiver, never seeming to find a comfortable spot. While it’s far too early to call him a changed player in Reid’s offense, it’s a start.

“It’s always good to start a first practice … with a big one,” McCluster said. “I’m happy I held on to the ball.”

Reid’s arrival could rescue McCluster’s career, which stalled last season under coach Romeo Crennel. Reid, then coaching the Philadelphia Eagles, was intrigued by McCluster when he was available in the 2010 draft.

The Chiefs got to him first, but Reid began making plans for McCluster shortly after arriving in Kansas City in January.

“He gives you a little flexibility,” Reid said. “You can move him around a Iittle. We’ll use him here and there.”

During offseason practice and again on Friday, McCluster lined up in a variety of spots.

“I don’t know where he couldn’t line up, to be honest, as far as skill positions go,” Smith said. “He’s got that many tools in the belt.”

Another offensive player the Chiefs are counting on is rookie running back Knile Davis. The Chiefs hope he can be turned into a kickoff return specialist, even though he never returned a kick during a game in college at Arkansas.

That process got off to a rough start Friday when Davis, who was a frequent fumbler in college, dropped a kickoff.

“We’ll get that fixed,” Reid said.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:50 PM   #241
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I don't get why people get so pissed here when others say negative this or that about the Chiefs.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:51 PM   #242
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Oh, so now we are going back to that. Cool. Clearly, I have won. Find facts. Find any account, you think was me, and prove it. You cant, you are full of shit.
He has me there, for sure. Not at all worried about admitting it. I stress my opinion about what Chiefs fans should feel and think. All the while knowing that it's just an opinion.

When a fan comes over to a team's forum that trades for their player... and says, "hey guys, you all should be happy to have him! He can do some good things for you."

The mature response should be something like, "well, I have my doubts, but thanks for giving your opinion!"

See? that's what happens in the grown up world of self respect and civility.

Only here? it's more like, "Oh **** off and die in a fiery aids tree, asshole! That player sucks and will always suck and now my team will suck! So take your ass out of here mutha****a!"

... and there you have it. Worlds apart.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:51 PM   #243
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The Niners went after Hasselbeck, Peyton, and even Tim ****ing Tebow before settling for Alice Smiff. Even then, they had drafted Kaepernick and had no qualms with replacing Smiff with him.
Jim had already scouted Kaep, after being told by Andrew Luck that he needed to check him out. They were together at the Manning passing camp after Lucks Junior season. Roman, and harbs went to see him, now, ill tell you this again, JIM HARBAUGH, HAD NOT EVEN TALKED TO ALEX SMITH AT THIS POINT.

The niners were never after Tim Tebow. gtfoh.....Its peyton manning, and they tried to sign Hasselbeck, BEFORE THEY TALKED WITH ALEX SMITH.

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Old 07-27-2013, 01:51 PM   #244
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Oh, so now we are going back to that. Cool. Clearly, I have won. Find facts. Find any account, you think was me, and prove it. You cant, you are full of shit.
No I'm not. Can't search from my phone but I guarantee you have told us we should be happy about this trade. how many names have you had here snoop?
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:52 PM   #245
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Save your indignant overreaction, it was a TiC reply to this post:
Indignant? Hardly.

And had you quoted him I would have caught it, but fact is it sounds like a typical Keg post anyway.

In context it makes sense though.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:52 PM   #246
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Only a dumbass thinks that way.

Here is why. One, the 49ers were being cheap to the point of no return. That is the major reason why Alex was picked over Aaron. Second, Aaron Rodgers was said to be more strong headed than Alex Smith, and Nolan wanted a yes man. That's why Alex Smith was drafted.

Lastly, no one wants to hear from a Chargers fan, on gaffes about qbs. You pissed away drew brees, and you had Eli Manning, and his daddy, embarrass you in front of the entire country saying they didn't want to play for your shitty franchise. You have no room to talk.

And I think its hilarious, that a Chargers turd, is welcomed here, but 49ers fans aren't wanted.
Meltdowns and revisionist history won't change the fact that picking Alice over Rodgers is an all-time ****-up. Picking Alice because he was a "yes man" and "cheap" makes it even MORE of a ****-up.

The Chargers did not piss away Drew Brees. He was nowhere near as good in San Diego as he is in NOLA and Rivers was waiting in the wings to replace him. His shoulder injury (caused as a result of Marty's stubbornness) was so severe that it was questionable whether he'd ever play again. There was a reason that only two other teams besides the Chargers were even interested when Brees hit the open market in '06.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:52 PM   #247
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I don't get why people get so pissed here when others say negative this or that about the Chiefs.
Or vice versa?

You think you can be optimistic here and not get hammered? Seriously?
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I don't get why people get so pissed here when others say negative this or that about the Chiefs.
Exactly. I don't agree with the homer mentality, but I sure as hell don't get pissed about it.

If anything, it's ****ing comical watching people come up with every excuse possible as to why THIS time, it's going to be different for the team/coach/Alex Smith and why the rest of us are bad fans for not having blind faith.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:53 PM   #249
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Cheap? What does strong headed have to go with cheap? Would they have had to pay Rodgers more for being picked at the same spot because he is strong headed? I don't understand.

The chargers fans that are here are welcome because they don't act like you pricks do...
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Alex was willing to sign for cheaper than Aaron Rodgers. Alex Smith was seen as more of a yes man than Aaron Rodgers.

Anyone thinking that if the 49ers would of drafted Aaron Rodgers, over Alex Smith, and that everything would be the same. Is simple, and silly. Had this talk before too. Aaron Rodgers, is very thinned skinned. He was very fortunate to be able to sit behind Brett Favre, and fortunate to land in a Ferrari of an offense in Green bay. He wouldn't of lasted as long in SF as Alex did. He takes everything personally. Alex Smith doesn't have a mean bone in his body, and honestly, that hurts him a lot.
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Or vice versa?

You think you can be optimistic here and not get hammered? Seriously?
HUGE difference in getting "hammered" because your opinion is full of holes, and getting pissed at people, turning into a whining ****.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:54 PM   #251
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Exactly. I don't agree with the homer mentality, but I sure as hell don't get pissed about it.

If anything, it's ****ing comical watching people come up with every excuse possible as to why THIS time, it's going to be different for the team/coach/Alex Smith.
And that's fine. You berate anyone who doesn't take your shitty attitude.

You rip anyone who posts positively, with your little laughing emoticons. Now you want to pretend like you don't antagonize this shit.

Lol. You are a chump.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:55 PM   #252
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Smith will get 2 years for sure. If he has a decent year this year, I'd imagine well see a contract extension.

That's great if he gets us to the playoffs, that's why you make the move and that's what these moves say " we're winning now". That's great, but with that, I'm also expecting to win now.

It can't go both ways.

"Don't be negative, they're trying to win now" " you're setting them up to fail thinking they'll win 10 and make the playoffs"

It's either or.
This season will rely on a lot more than just Alex Smith. Our DL is a dumpster fire, our interior OL is completely unknown, our CB's are unknown, our #2 WR is unknown. Everything is unknown.

I think it depends on how well Alex Smith does personally that will determine this deal.
I think we have some good talent, but not quite enough to make the playoffs for sure.

Do you think we have as much overall talent as a team than the Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Texans or Colts? Because 3 of those teams will be our challenge to make the playoffs as a wildcard.
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Meltdowns and revisionist history won't change the fact that picking Alice over Rodgers is an all-time ****-up. Picking Alice because he was a "yes man" and "cheap" makes it even MORE of a ****-up.

The Chargers did not piss away Drew Brees. He was nowhere near as good in San Diego as he is in NOLA and Rivers was waiting in the wings to replace him. His shoulder injury (caused as a result of Marty's stubbornness) was so severe that it was questionable whether he'd ever play again. There was a reason that only two other teams besides the Chargers were even interested when Brees hit the open market in '06.
So what you are saying is that if brees had stayed, he might not be Drew Brees we know today?

Thank you for proving my point dumbass.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:56 PM   #254
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See, again, you trying to tell me about the niners, but you shit all over anyone who is not a chiefs fan who tries to tell you about the Chiefs.

First. They had already decided to DRAFT Colin Kaepernick, before Alex Smith was even under contract. Remember the LOCKOUT? Jim Harbaugh, had ONE conversation with Alex when the Lockout was lifted for one day, POST DRAFT, and decided that Alex was going to be his qb, and gave him his playbook. They did NOT go after Manning. Manning, called Jim Harbaugh, and asked him to come out and have a look, they went, came back, and signed Alex Smith. This was all discussed diagnosed. Who WOULDNT be interested in Peyton Manning, if your qb wasn't under contract? That's stupid business. Oh, by the way, Tebow won a playoff game that year, and he was traded away for Peyton. Its Peyton ****ing manning.
This whole post is idiotic. Manning requested them to come see him? They did and declined to sign him? Tebow was traded away for Manning? I must gave missed him on the colts...


And asked Smith want under contract because the niners CHOSE to let him become a free agent.

Again name another in their prime qb who had just won a playoff game that season to become a free agent.

Its VERY rare. Like off the too of my had I can't remember it happening in at last the last ten years.

Why?

Because teams LOCK up those guys long term.
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Alex was willing to sign for cheaper than Aaron Rodgers. Alex Smith was seen as more of a yes man than Aaron Rodgers.

Anyone thinking that if the 49ers would of drafted Aaron Rodgers, over Alex Smith, and that everything would be the same. Is simple, and silly. Had this talk before too. Aaron Rodgers, is very thinned skinned. He was very fortunate to be able to sit behind Brett Favre, and fortunate to land in a Ferrari of an offense in Green bay. He wouldn't of lasted as long in SF as Alex did. He takes everything personally. Alex Smith doesn't have a mean bone in his body, and honestly, that hurts him a lot.
Truth! Aaron got the silver-spoon treatment... Alex got reamed by ineptitude all over. Rodgers would probably have strangled Nolan.. or caused such a destructive stir that he's have been traded. A real lesson in what to do.. and what not to do when developing QBs..
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