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Old 07-26-2013, 09:09 PM  
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Father of SEAL Team Member Claims His Son Was Set Up

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Charles Strange, the father of one the 22 SEALs killed when their helicopter was shot down by Afghan insurgents in August, told Michael Savage on his radio broadcast that he undoubtedly believes that his son and the rest of the SEALs were set up.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=14245387

Charles Strange told Savage that on multiple occasions he and family were approached by his son Michael and were informed of a will he had prepared because of information that had leaked within the SEAL unit.

“Something’s going on with the team. Somebody’s leaking things out. Something’s going on.” Charles recalled his son saying.

“Your son knew he was being sent to his death?” asked Savage.

“They knew something was up,” answered Strange

Strange reveals that other families had experienced similar behavior from their Navy SEAL relative at the same time.


Documents obtained by Strange related to the crash breakdown how a rescue team was held back from aiding the SEALs onboard the attacked helicopter.

When asked if he thought his son was set up on purpose Strange replied, “100% sir, Petraeus left ten days after it happened, he disappeared to the CIA then Benghazi happened..Admiral Eric Olson left two days after the crash on August 8th.”

“This was all planned..I have it in the paper work.” explained Strange.

In result of the publicly expressed concern by the SEALs' families the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Jason Chaffetz, plans to launch a congressional probe into the mysterious case of the 22 dead SEALs.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/31...hal-seal-crash

Among other suspicions raised by Strange in the interview is the fact that the black boxes inside the helicopter were never recovered.

A flash flood was the explanation given to Strange for the missing boxes.

Similar to the Michael Hastings questionable car crash narrative being pushed out by authorities, the killed SEAL members were cremated. An idea pushed onto the families by the Navy.

http://eyesopenreport.com/michael-ha...-to-have-body/

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/...er-claims.html
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:36 PM   #31
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:44 PM   #32
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:40 PM   #33
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The only thing that makes the Seal crash "stink" is the dumping of OBL's body overboard. Why was that necessary?
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:49 PM   #34
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My heart goes out to Mr. Strange and he has every right to know the intimate details of his son's death.
I disagree. I'm sure he's very curious, but Mr. Strange has no special right to know the details of the end of a life that belonged to someone else. Neither the military nor his son needed his permission to enter into the agreement that existed between them. Mr. Strange has the right to ask, but I don't think he's owed an answer. Don't like that arrangement? Do your best to talk your son out of going into the military and maybe you'll never have that problem.
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:53 PM   #35
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I disagree. I'm sure he's very curious, but Mr. Strange has no special right to know the details of the end of a life that belonged to someone else. Neither the military nor his son needed his permission to enter into the agreement that existed between them. Mr. Strange has the right to ask, but I don't think he's owed an answer. Don't like that arrangement? Do your best to talk your son out of going into the military and maybe you'll never have that problem.
I would think a straight answer may put his mind at rest. Do you have kids? perhaps a son? I would definitely want to know what happened.
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I would think a straight answer may put his mind at rest. Do you have kids? perhaps a son? I would definitely want to know what happened.
The father's mind isn't a part of the mission and it being at rest isn't the goal. His mind is owed nothing from the military. If they want to share information with the dead man's father, that's a nice thing to do. However, I don't particularly want a military that's in the being nice business.

My son is 18. At one time he was considering the military. I cannot make up his mind for him, but I have done what I can to get him to stop considering it.
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The only thing that makes the Seal crash "stink" is the dumping of OBL's body overboard. Why was that necessary?
So you don't turn his grave into a shrine of perceived martyrdom.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:42 AM   #38
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My heart goes out to Mr. Strange and he has every right to know the intimate details of his son's death.
Mine does as well, but I'm not sure he has "every right to know the intimate details of his son's death." I'd imagine he's told as much as he can be told. I'd also imagine that ALL the details aren't known. It's war and someone shot down a helicopter. Identifying every aspect of exactly what happened probably isn't always possible. And to do so to the satisfaction of a grieving parent is probably nearly always impossible.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:44 AM   #39
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The only thing that makes the Seal crash "stink" is the dumping of OBL's body overboard. Why was that necessary?
The crash was 3 months after that. And it was mostly different people. Maybe 2 were also involved on the OBL raid.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:53 AM   #40
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So you don't turn his grave into a shrine of perceived martyrdom.
He doesn't need a grave. You can burn the body after everyone sees proof.

I think he was already dead.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:09 AM   #41
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do you think the folks asking for more detailed info regarding their children are nuts?
No. They are grieving parents, they are angry, and they want all of the answers they can get. If I were in their shoes I would probably do the same thing.

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Old 07-29-2013, 05:01 AM   #42
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Mine does as well, but I'm not sure he has "every right to know the intimate details of his son's death." I'd imagine he's told as much as he can be told. I'd also imagine that ALL the details aren't known. It's war and someone shot down a helicopter. Identifying every aspect of exactly what happened probably isn't always possible. And to do so to the satisfaction of a grieving parent is probably nearly always impossible.
True statement, but with a caveat. Having been a Casualty Assistance Officer we were obliged to provide date, circumstances, location, mission (to a degree) and as much detail on the manner of death as the next of kin asks that we can provide. I've seen a General Officer debrief a family and show them UAV footage (admittedly, a special circumstance).

Family members are provided things like diagrams, story boards, and even de-classified documents should it be required (Line of Duty Investigation, for example). Most is available under FOIA, and mothers and fathers sometimes don't want to hear "it's war...he died."

How many want every detail? Don't know, but I'd say majority do not.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:56 AM   #43
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I believe OBL was already dead long ago. but we needed a boogey man to justify the billions of dollars being spent fighting 'terror'.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:00 AM   #44
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I believe OBL was already dead long ago. but we needed a boogey man to justify the billions of dollars being spent fighting 'terror'.
Yup, so they ceremoniously killed some old bastard watching VHS porn.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:03 AM   #45
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Yes, i'm fully aware of that.

The teams are much bigger than any particular tasking that goes on a given mission... i want to believe basically what BRC said, maybe sometimes the bear wins.

I believe in all kinds of conspiracies, but i just cant wrap my head around OBL being some completely phony construct of the CIA or Halliburton(dirty as they are) etc... ONE of these all-american, uberpatriotic SEALS or someone else (there are plenty of good and decent people still left in our system) would've spilled the beans by now.

But an entire chopper chock full of our very best? The single biggest loss of life in the conflict?... it simply doesnt jibe, those guys have the very best special-ops pilots available, the very best equipment available, the very best intelligence and tactics available... something sucks about this beyond the obvious.

Errr...why? The best doesn't mean invincible.

First, this team dying doesn't have anything to do with OBL. That's fairly obvious because there is no tie between THIS Seal Team Six team and OBL to begin with.

So why are they all dead? What's more likely -- casualty of war or massive government coverup which required them to kill their own soldiers for some reason? Since war entails a significant amount of entropy, it's not really hard to say which is more likely, by far.
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