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Old 07-27-2013, 06:55 PM  
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Mellinger:Amnesia alone won’t help Chiefs

Amnesia alone won’t help Chiefs
By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star
Eric Berry is a thoughtful man, conscientious about both football and life, but at the moment he might as well be closing his eyes and covering his ears and yelling NA-NA-NA-I’M-NOT-LISTENING-NA-NA-NA!!!

Go ahead, try the Chiefs’ star safety. A reporter did this the other day at training camp. Asked a question which included the words “last year” and, well, those are the last words of the question.

“We ain’t talking about last year,” Berry interrupts.

The reporter tries to clarify.

“Yeah, I’m not talking about last year,” Berry interrupts again. “We’re excited about this year, where we’re going and the direction we’re headed, so I don’t want to compare the two.”

A second reporter jumps in for the save. Tells Berry the question is about his surgically repaired knee a year ago, and whether it feels stronger now — not about what turned out to be his embarrassingly bad team a year ago.

“Oh,” Berry says. “It’s a total difference.”

There are as many ways of moving on as there are things we want to move on from. And as far as things worth moving on from, the 2012 Chiefs are toward the top of the list, even above skinny jeans, the word “swag” and Justin Bieber.

For Kansas City, last year’s Chiefs are like that gas station sushi you tried a few years back. You regretted it immediately and wanted desperately to forget about it, except that it made you intensely sick.

So we can all understand what the Chiefs are doing here — can all see the motivation in what is obviously an organization directive to pretend that last year never happened. Who wants to talk about their worst moment? How often does your friend from college bring up the night he slept in the yard?

“For me, as well as everyone else, last year is last year,” Dexter McCluster says. “It’s in the past. Don’t want to think about it.”

This is, very clearly, a talking point for the 2013 Chiefs. As far as they’re concerned, there was a break in the time continuum, basically. The 2-14 record, the league’s worst offense, the angry letters to Clark Hunt, the banners flying over Arrowhead Stadium on game days, Jovan Belcher’s unthinkable murder-suicide. None of it ever happened, if you believe the company talking points.

Berry and McCluster won’t ever forget the misery, no matter what they say, but for a lot of their teammates last year actually didn’t happen.

The Chiefs have a new head coach, a new quarterback, a new general manager, new coordinators, new cornerbacks, new linemen, new receivers, new perspective. Fifty-five of the 90 players in camp weren’t part of the 2012 disaster. That’s one of the highest turnover rates in the league.

This is a good thing, for purposes of both football and otherwise. The team clearly stunk, and the stink was bad enough to require evacuation for many and fumigation for the rest.

The Chiefs have good players. Too good to go 2-14, anyway. They all understand this, and have apparently decided that not talking about last year is part of the best plan to make sure last year doesn’t happen again.

That’s fine. Their choice. These are just words.

But aside from quarterback Alex Smith, an overwhelming majority of the Chiefs’ most important players have vivid, personal memories of last year’s misery — the one that anyone who would answer calls the worst year of their professional lives.

The difference between the 2012 Chiefs and this year’s version isn’t limited to the names on the back of the jerseys.

Besides the new players and coaches there is also a new pace. Quicker. Constant. No sitting. We are still in the embryonic stage of training camp, and the Chiefs have already installed completely new playbooks and schemes on both offense and defense.

In that way, what coach Andy Reid and general manager John Dorsey are attempting isn’t just a rehab — it’s more like a complete tear-down and buildup, all in the time it takes for the Men In Black guys to use those awesome memory erasers.

There is no way to know whether this will work until the games start, of course. Today marks the first day of pads, and there aren’t many things football men put less stock into than what players look like in shorts.

What we can do, for now, is judge how the Chiefs made it from the end of last year’s shame to the beginning of this year’s hope. Chairman Clark Hunt made it clear that the failure of 2012 was unacceptable, and moved quickly.

Fired Romeo Crennel, hired Reid. Fired Scott Pioli, hired Dorsey. Together, they fired Matt Cassel and traded for Smith. There is too much talent on defense for last year’s 13 takeaways to be acceptable, so Reid brought in former Jets assistant Bob Sutton to attack. If the company line in training camp is for guys to pretend last year didn’t happen, it comes after an offseason with the men in charge changing everything but the uniforms.

The recent history of teams coming off 2-14 seasons is short on major success stories. Last year’s Colts are the only ones in the last decade to make the playoffs or have a winning record. All together, the 10 teams averaged 5.7 wins.

The Chiefs have enough talent, and have made enough changes to believe this will be a much better season. Competitive, at least. Their first preseason game is in less than two weeks. Their first real game is four weeks after that. So the Chiefs can keep on pretending last year didn’t happen.

Soon enough, we’ll know whether this is just PR spin. Because what’s important isn’t if they can fool themselves into believing last year happened.

It’s whether doing so helps many who were key players in that awfulness avoid a sequel.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:11 AM   #46
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I just went through the Raiders and Chiefs rosters and there's not one position I'd rather have a Raiders player except for the center.

The Raiders are the worst team in the NFL. Bar none. Hands down.
I wouldn't mind having Bowe ... But when healthy I would rather have Mcfadden over Charles but Charles is no slouch by any means...

I would rather have the Raiders QB's (even if unproven) than being force fed Alex Smith without a chance of a QB competition.

Raiders are gonna fool alot of people this year with the youngsters, then they have 70 million in cap room to work with next year..

Everything surrounds the QB this year for the Raiders , If Flynn with his limited game experience but vast backup experience can lead this team... up to 8 wins are possible.. If Flynn fails and the rookie has to lead this team it will be 4 or 5 wins this year.

The Raiders defense will be better and the offense will be too, especially in the running game... Jacoby Ford is healthy again at WR along with Denarius Moore and Streater... But I just don't know how they are going to perform with Flynn right now...

The 2012 Media said the Chiefs were SB bound last year and won 2 games...
The 2013 Media says the Raiders are the worst team in the NFL this year...

We shall see... I bet not
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:40 AM   #47
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The Faid are ****ing trash this year. It is what it is.

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Old 07-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #48
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I agree with what you're saying though. I don't think the star reporters have any special football insight to offer. They just have access, so the quotes are what their stories are about.
The Stars Football reporters have sucked for quite awhile. IMHO the best writer they had bailed after a short stint. It was several years ago and I can't even remember his name. I think his first name was Ivan. Anyway he had the best football knowledge out of all of them. I wonder what happened to him?
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:55 AM   #49
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McFadden over Charles? Smdh
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:00 AM   #50
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McFadden over Charles? Smdh
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In his defense, when healthy, McFadden is a beast.

The problem is that he's rarely healthy.

Give me JC every time.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:02 AM   #51
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In his defense, when healthy, McFadden is a beast.

The problem is that he's rarely healthy.

Give me JC every time.
I agree he's a beast when healthy, still think Charles is better.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:03 AM   #52
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McFadden does not get tackled by mascots
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:04 AM   #53
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I think Charles is a great back but I prefer someone with finesse and power to plow over someone...
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #54
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I think Charles is a great back but I prefer someone with finesse and power to plow over someone...
I prefer someone who can get on the field.
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I prefer someone who can get on the field.
This.
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You considering predicting the Raiders coming in at 3rd is dreaming.
Raiders will be third. Chargers will be dead last and win the Clowney sweepstakes. Clowney spends his career tormenting the Faid.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:23 AM   #57
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Charles didn't either...

And he had shown he can run people over too.


And he has come right back in after hurting his shoulder, an injury that would finish dmc for the year
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I prefer someone who can get on the field.
DMC has been out alot but if I recall Charles was out for a whole year too... Anybody actually have the stats on games played Charles vs DMC?
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Charles didn't either...

And he had shown he can run people over too.


And he has come right back in after hurting his shoulder, an injury that would finish dmc for the year
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Charles runs like a girl... He is fast as hell but he won't lower his shoulder pads and knock someone on their ass
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