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Old 07-30-2013, 10:53 AM  
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Fox News’ Lauren Green Doesn’t Understand Religious Scholarship

You're a Chiefs fan, yet you have an opinion on the Broncos. Isn't that odd?

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Old 07-30-2013, 01:56 PM   #31
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It's not reasonable because the question assumes bias. It could have been worded in such a way for him to explain his religion's lack of relevance to his scholarship, but it wasn't.

This is something far too many media outlets are guilty of:

"Some people say"---weasel words---followed by a question they don't have to source.

If she wanted to ask that question in such a way to engage in a productive dialogue, she could have easily said,

"Persons X,Y, and Z have called you scholarship into question due to your religious faith. What is your response to them, and the audience regarding this criticism?"

She didn't. She ****ed up and deserves to own it.
I disagree. There certainly could have been better ways to get at the issue and I'm not saying that this interview is worthy of praise, but it's not worthy of the criticism it's getting either and you're dredging up offense where none need be found with your particular criticism.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:56 PM   #32
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Which might be acceptable if what was just framed as a, "Why write this book?" question rather than, "As a Muslim, why write this book?" She's setting up his religion as some type of notable difference when it has no bearing on the quality of scholarship or the subject matter. It's a completely irrelevant qualifier. It's an attempt to poison the well, and it backfired, as it should have.
This. If she wanted to ask, on the back end, whether being a Muslim offered a different perspective on Jesus/Christianity, that's fair game.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:40 PM   #33
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The one Christian who tried to write a book on Islam was beheaded by extremists and his body was dragged through the streets. Just kidding, that's only what would happen. The only approximation we have was Salmon Rushdie and - well we know what happened there.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:45 PM   #34
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I watched that clip yesterday and think that the interviewer was being fed the questions on the teleprompter or her notes.

Seems like she was not just being her self, but had to conduct the interview a certain way to please her employer.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:58 PM   #35
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I thought the interview was embarrassing for all parties involved.
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:00 PM   #36
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Which might be acceptable if what was just framed as a, "Why write this book?" question rather than, "As a Muslim, why write this book?" She's setting up his religion as some type of notable difference when it has no bearing on the quality of scholarship or the subject matter. It's a completely irrelevant qualifier. It's an attempt to poison the well, and it backfired, as it should have.
I get what you are saying, but as a non Muslim I think it should be put in that context. It would be the obvious question. That is an important difference between this author and others who are Christian. I think a lot of people are looking to make an issue out of a non issue. Was it a great interview...no. Did she cross any real lines...no. It is what it is on face value.
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:10 PM   #37
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I watched that clip yesterday and think that the interviewer was being fed the questions on the teleprompter or her notes.

Seems like she was not just being her self, but had to conduct the interview a certain way to please her employer.
That was why I said she and her producer should be embarrassed. She was getting those quotes she used to question him from a teleprompter that the producer was feeding her. That's why she keeps looking down and stumbling over her words.
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:13 PM   #38
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I get what you are saying, but as a non Muslim I think it should be put in that context. It would be the obvious question. That is an important difference between this author and others who are Christian. I think a lot of people are looking to make an issue out of a non issue. Was it a great interview...no. Did she cross any real lines...no. It is what it is on face value.
Yes, because how else could one determine an expert named Reza Aslan might be a Muslim??
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:24 PM   #39
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Yes, because how else could one determine an expert named Reza Aslan might be a Muslim??
To put that in context...I have a very Jewish sounding name...many people just assume I am, but I'm not. I know former Muslims that have converted to Christianity, so that is possible too. Why not just put a fact out there without having people guess, because a lot of people guess wrong.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:52 PM   #40
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The one Christian who tried to write a book on Islam was beheaded by extremists and his body was dragged through the streets. Just kidding, that's only what would happen. The only approximation we have was Salmon Rushdie and - well we know what happened there.
I just googled it:

https://www.google.com/search?q=book...w=1280&bih=894


It says that there are about 12,200 results.
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:05 PM   #41
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He kept his cool. She was just terrible.
Frankly she was an embarrassment to herself and the country
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:07 PM   #42
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I get what you are saying, but as a non Muslim I think it should be put in that context. It would be the obvious question. That is an important difference between this author and others who are Christian. I think a lot of people are looking to make an issue out of a non issue. Was it a great interview...no. Did she cross any real lines...no. It is what it is on face value.
So any Christian author writes a book about Islam explaining it in someway should have this kind of treatment put on them in reverse?
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:08 PM   #43
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It would've been funnier she just said well there is no historical evidence for Jesus so what of you been studying for the last 20 years?
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #44
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So any Christian author writes a book about Islam explaining it in someway should have this kind of treatment put on them in reverse?
Of course. It's worth investigating why a Christian would choose to write a book explaining Islam.
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Just another media whore trying to stir shit.

Why do people watch this shit?
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