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Old 07-31-2013, 06:36 PM  
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Commissioner Bud Selig is prepared to levy a lifetime suspension on New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, while suspending about eight others before the weekend, two people with knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports.

The people were unauthorized to speak publicly because no announcement is expected until Thursday or Friday.

Rodriguez, according to his attorney, David Cornwell, will appeal any suspension, regardless of the severity. The other players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing, according to one of the people.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:40 AM   #136
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:42 AM   #137
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Make no mistake: the MLB is clearly trying to help the Yankees out by getting them out of that contract. If it were any other team (besides maybe the Red Sox or Phillies) a lifetime ban wouldn't even be on the table.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:44 AM   #138
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I think its great, especially when the team in your city is winning. It's fun, to me, to look at the next series, the pitching matchups, etc.
When a team is losing 90-100 games it's really crappy, but it's still an awesome game when the team is competing.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:45 AM   #139
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For those who think baseball records are being corrupted by steroids...

Charles Radbourn won 59 games in a season.

John Coleman lost 48 games in a season.

Matt Kilroy struck out 513 batters in a season.

Hugh Duffy hit .440 in a season.

Baseball records don't mean shit. The game has changed...and changed...and changed.

There is already a dead ball era and a live ball era...a segregated era and an integrated era...seasons with 70, 60, 84, 98, 112, 126, 140, 154, 132, and 162 game schedules...one league and two leagues...no divisions, four divisions, six divisions...postseasons with 2, 4, 6, and 8 teams...no interleague play and interleague play, etc. etc. etc.

Why so many people hold onto the idea that baseball records are somehow special when compared to other sports is beyond me.

And Baseball has been on PED's since the 50's and before that they were drunks.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:45 AM   #140
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It will be a shame if McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, or any of these other guys who ruined sports' greatest record EVER get in, even by the veterans' committee.

The league used to say Pete Rose had "tarnished the game", but what the juicers did was much worse, IMO.
The Hall of Fame is already full of admitted cheaters. Keeping McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, etc. out is essentially closing the barn door after the horses got out - not to mention an attempt to erase an entire era of baseball. The MLB and its writers are just throwing a hissyfit now because they all looked like fools once the steroid witch hunt began.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:52 AM   #141
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As a fan of baseball and sports I would love to go to the MLB HOF if Pete Rose was inducted.


However I wouldn't care to go or wouldn't give a shit to go see Alex Rodriquez in it.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:55 AM   #142
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I don't even understand why MLB doesn't put Pete Rose in the HOF after all these years? That would bring in a lot of folks and they would be able to charge 5 bucks more I bet.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:04 AM   #143
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I just don't get why any sport cares about PEDs. We've got wife beaters, druggies, killers, etc. that keep on playing.

Who cares if they are taking modern age supplements? These guys are tough on their bodies. Can't imagine doing it without medical help.

And let me tell ya. If I was a borderline player with the chance to play in the NFL vs. sacking groceries? You better believe I'm shooting something up my ass!
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #144
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I just don't get why any sport cares about PEDs. We've got wife beaters, druggies, killers, etc. that keep on playing.

Who cares if they are taking modern age supplements? These guys are tough on their bodies. Can't imagine doing it without medical help.

And let me tell ya. If I was a borderline player with the chance to play in the NFL vs. sacking groceries? You better believe I'm shooting something up my ass!
Sports care about PEDs because your chances of success shouldn't be determined by the drugs you ingest.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #145
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I don't even understand why MLB doesn't put Pete Rose in the HOF after all these years? That would bring in a lot of folks and they would be able to charge 5 bucks more I bet.
MLB doesn't put people in the Hall of Fame or run it.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:11 AM   #146
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I don't even understand why MLB doesn't put Pete Rose in the HOF after all these years? That would bring in a lot of folks and they would be able to charge 5 bucks more I bet.
Because he's an unrepentant asshole. Rose is his own worst enemy. If he had publicly admitted he was wrong and said he was sorry they'd have put him in the HOF years ago. But he simply refuses to do so. I don't see either side blinking anytime soon.

They'll probably put him in after he dies.

IMO he should be put in regardless.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:12 AM   #147
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I just don't get why any sport cares about PEDs. We've got wife beaters, druggies, killers, etc. that keep on playing.

Who cares if they are taking modern age supplements? These guys are tough on their bodies. Can't imagine doing it without medical help.

And let me tell ya. If I was a borderline player with the chance to play in the NFL vs. sacking groceries? You better believe I'm shooting something up my ass!
competitive balance and fairness


I don't give a shit if an adult wants to take roids or whatever UNLESS they play a competitive sport. Then it's about being fair and level playing field etc.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:17 AM   #148
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:17 AM   #149
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I don't give a shit if an adult wants to take roids or whatever UNLESS they play a competitive sport. Then it's about being fair and level playing field etc.
So you agree that it should be allowed, then? Level the playing field. Don't need to worry about "cheating".
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:18 AM   #150
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Agree to disagree but I think the, "it wasn't banned" angle is sort of goofy. They knew it was wrong, so whatever. The player's union fought it all and they were part of that, so they made that bed and they can lie in it. I'm not looking to make excuses for guys that knew there were risks to getting caught.
I don't view it any different than for example NFL players using stickum so they can catch passes. Fred Biletnikoff used it extensively and he is in the HOF.

I just don't see how you can ban a player or treat them differently just because they tried to get an advantage that wasn't breaking the rules. All professional athletes do that to some extent.
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