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Old 07-31-2013, 05:36 PM  
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Commissioner Bud Selig is prepared to levy a lifetime suspension on New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, while suspending about eight others before the weekend, two people with knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports.

The people were unauthorized to speak publicly because no announcement is expected until Thursday or Friday.

Rodriguez, according to his attorney, David Cornwell, will appeal any suspension, regardless of the severity. The other players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing, according to one of the people.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:24 PM   #31
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McGwire did admit to using them a few years ago.
After years of denial and outright lying. Go watch video of that ass hat at the congressional hearing and tell me that is someone you want in the HOF.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:25 PM   #32
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I was a kid when the home run chase happened. I had no idea they were juicing. You may not feel betrayed but I certainly do.

The people who were running the game... if they knew? Yeah, hypocritical as hell.
The public wern't hypocrites. They didn't know. It was baseball, the coaches, players etc.

No way no one is going to convince me that everyone in the late 90's - early 2000's was surprised by PED usage.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:27 PM   #33
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McGwire at least strikes me as a decent person. Sosa had a bad rep around town as being a prima donna douche, but at least he made it look good for the fans. Clemons and Bonds, however, were just complete ****ing pricks.

However, being a ****ing prick isn't grounds for not making the HOF
Yep, Ty Cobb has to be one of the worse human beings to ever be a baseball "star". Racist as hell too.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:28 PM   #34
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McGwire at least strikes me as a decent person. Sosa had a bad rep around town as being a prima donna douche, but at least he made it look good for the fans. Clemons and Bonds, however, were just complete ****ing pricks.

However, being a ****ing prick isn't grounds for not making the HOF (kick the first guy inducted out if that ever happens), so if you don't admit one of them, you don't admit any of them.

And I'm good with that.
Who they are aside... McGwire never even needed to take them. He legitimately had the talent to hit 600+ homers. I've never seen another person hit baseballs like he could hit a baseball.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:28 PM   #35
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:30 PM   #36
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McGwire never denied it publicly, A-Rod admitted to doing so a few years ago. Clemens/Bonds are the ones that haven't admitted to it.
McGwire just didn't want to talk about the past. Yes, he's a stand-up guy. If Canseco doesn't write that book, McGwire would still be denying it to this day.

A-Rod admitted that he "inadvertently" used because he took something his cousin said was OK. Now it turns out (if reports are true) that he was actively recruiting others to biogenesis.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:32 PM   #37
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Who they are aside... McGwire never even needed to take them. He legitimately had the talent to hit 600+ homers. I've never seen another person hit baseballs like he could hit a baseball.
He sure paid the price for it in the end, though. And so did the Cardinals.

I'll never forget his epic suck against the Diamondbacks in his last postseason series. He was an absolute, guaranteed out, and it seemed like every time he was up there were runners on base with two outs. Strike one, strike two, strike three, inning over. ****er. And of course, LaRussa wouldn't bench him.

I have no love for the guy. The Cardinals didn't win dick until after he left.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:51 PM   #38
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The lifetime ban is a threat to effectively ban him from the Hall of Fame. He doesn't have that many games in him anyway, but the HOF rules state that a banned player isn't eligible. So, this is MLB saying, "You're not even getting to a HOF vote unless you admit you took roids and go away."
You could say he wouldn't get in anyway, but there's a chance that once Bonds gets in (which he will eventually) the rest of the roid guys could get in, too. So he probably thinks he could still get in the HOF.
My belief anyway.
its an attempt to prevent him from collection the 150 million he has left on his contract. You know dman well the Yankee's are pushing for that.

He's not gonna get into the hall anyways if he doesnt get banned. Look at Bonds, he's not sniffing it.
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Who they are aside... McGwire never even needed to take them. He legitimately had the talent to hit 600+ homers. I've never seen another person hit baseballs like he could hit a baseball.
Mark took them to heal from his back injuries that kept getting reinjured. The steroids healed him.

There is this doctor in L.A that has a radio show on espn la on the weekends. I listen at times, he said, its legal for player to shoot coritisone that damages body tissues, but steriods are illegal (even for healing) and they help heal and dont damage the body when taken correctly.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:54 PM   #40
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Yep, Ty Cobb has to be one of the worse human beings to ever be a baseball "star". Racist as hell too.
Oh for **** sake. Give it a rest.
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After years of denial and outright lying. Go watch video of that ass hat at the congressional hearing and tell me that is someone you want in the HOF.
He deserves to go in. Lying to a bunch of pompous blowhard liars who were meddling in something that was none of their business doesn't bother me.
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Old 07-31-2013, 07:01 PM   #42
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The strikes tarnished the game. The juicers saved it, imo.
if you gotta cheat to make the game interesting...
you know, maybe it's time to end the game
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He deserves to go in. Lying to a bunch of pompous blowhard liars who were meddling in something that was none of their business doesn't bother me.
Do his stats before he was obviously using say he deserves to be in the HOF? I would say no.

I don't give a shit who he lied to. He lied and that alone should keep him out of the hall.
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After years of denial and outright lying. Go watch video of that ass hat at the congressional hearing and tell me that is someone you want in the HOF.
Amen. These asshats deserve shit. Cheat...you are gone. Done. Rose, McGwire, Arod and any of the rest. Cheats in life or sports are still cheats.
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He deserves to go in. Lying to a bunch of pompous blowhard liars who were meddling in something that was none of their business doesn't bother me.
Excellent point.
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