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Old 07-31-2013, 06:36 PM  
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Commissioner Bud Selig is prepared to levy a lifetime suspension on New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, while suspending about eight others before the weekend, two people with knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports.

The people were unauthorized to speak publicly because no announcement is expected until Thursday or Friday.

Rodriguez, according to his attorney, David Cornwell, will appeal any suspension, regardless of the severity. The other players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing, according to one of the people.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:15 PM   #76
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He sure paid the price for it in the end, though. And so did the Cardinals.

I'll never forget his epic suck against the Diamondbacks in his last postseason series. He was an absolute, guaranteed out, and it seemed like every time he was up there were runners on base with two outs. Strike one, strike two, strike three, inning over. ****er. And of course, LaRussa wouldn't bench him.

I have no love for the guy. The Cardinals didn't win dick until after he left.
I would have happily taken the guy on the Royals, you ain't juicing you ain't trying. I say let them juice up.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:17 PM   #77
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Yeah...it will get worse if it's administered by professionals instead of by Dr. Nick. People will start dying left and right from steroids just like they do in the NFL. Oh wait...the NFL isn't full of steroid users. Baseball players use steroids. The NFL is full of 290 pounders who run 4.7 40s naturally.
You're so busy moving the goal posts and trying to be a sarcastic prick that it doesn't matter what is being said. Hell ... it doesn't even matter what subject is being discussed.

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Old 07-31-2013, 09:25 PM   #78
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if you gotta cheat to make the game interesting...
you know, maybe it's time to end the game
While I agree with your stance, that is not what I was saying.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:30 PM   #79
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You're so busy moving the goal posts and trying to be a sarcastic prick that it doesn't matter what is being said. Hell ... it doesn't even matter what subject is being discussed.

You are in battle mode and that's it.


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You just said it would get worse if it were permitted...kids are going to drop dead if MLB allows PEDs (...and by "PEDs", I mean stuff other than supplements, creatine, cortizone shots, etc., of course. Those things are fine, obviously.)
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:53 PM   #80
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What is the rationale of banning steroids? Do we have players dying from steroid abuse?

If anything, legalize it so players don't have to go to Dr. Nick.
Lyle Alzedo comes to mind.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:59 PM   #81
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Lyle Alzedo comes to mind.
Of course he does. He's the poster child for it. Let's pretend that steroids killed a guy 21 years ago even though he died of T cell lymphoma of the brain. Even if steroids did cause it, a few medical advancements have been made in the last few decades.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:08 PM   #82
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Give me a break. Who isn't thankful Sosa and Mgwire took talk away from the Braves and Yankees. GTFO.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:11 PM   #83
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If he is banned for life, he won't go in until Rose's ban is withdrawn, IMO.
If he's banned he's not even eligible.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:23 PM   #84
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Bah they're just banning A-rod to protect Bonds HR record!
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:25 PM   #85
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Of course he does. He's the poster child for it. Let's pretend that steroids killed a guy 21 years ago even though he died of T cell lymphoma of the brain. Even if steroids did cause it, a few medical advancements have been made in the last few decades.
There are athletes who die from steroid abuse every year. A number of these are suicides due to some of the psychological effects of steroid use and in particular the depression that sometimes occurs when moving off a cycle.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:26 PM   #86
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There are athletes who die from steroid abuse every year. A number of these are suicides due to some of the psychological effects of steroid use and in particular the depression that sometimes occurs when moving off a cycle.
Who are these athletes?
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:28 PM   #87
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There are athletes who die from steroid abuse every year. A number of these are suicides due to some of the psychological effects of steroid use and in particular the depression that sometimes occurs when moving off a cycle.
Ask how many pro-Wrestlers have died in their 20-30s from heart related issues. Either Wrestling happens to attract a disproportionate share of people with undiagnosed heart conditions or the steroids are doing something....
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Ask how many pro-Wrestlers have died in their 20-30s from heart related issues. Either Wrestling happens to attract a disproportionate share of people with undiagnosed heart conditions or the steroids are doing something....
Wrestlers are on everything.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Who are these athletes?
It's called the Internet you smug mother ****er. Look it up.
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Who are these athletes?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...ing-list_x.htm

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•"The British Bulldog," Davey Boy Smith, 39,died in 2002 in Canada of an enlarged heart with evidence of microscopic scar tissue, possibly from steroid abuse, a coroner said. "Davey paid the price with steroid cocktails and human-growth hormones," says Bruce Hart, a veteran trainer who worked with Smith and was his brother-in-law.

•Louie "Spicolli" Mucciolo, 27, died from coronary disease in his San Pedro, Calif., home in 1998, according to his autopsy. Investigators found an empty vial of the male hormone testosterone, pain pills and an anxiety-reducing drug. The Los Angeles County coroner's office determined the drugs might have contributed to his heart condition.

•"Flyin' "Brian Pillman, 35, was taking painkillers and human-growth hormones when he died from heart disease in 1997, his widow said several years ago. Investigators found empty bottles of painkillers near his body in a Minnesota hotel room.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...restling_x.htm

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USA TODAY's examination of medical documents, autopsies and police reports, along with interviews with family members and news accounts, shows that at least 65 wrestlers died in that time, 25 from heart attacks or other coronary problems — an extraordinarily high rate for people that young, medical officials say. Many had enlarged hearts.
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Eddie Guerrero was 38 years old when he passed away on November 13Th 2005 from heart failure due to hardening of the arteries.
There are a number of stories documenting the premature deaths and heart issues that have plagued pro-wrestlers and that's not even counting the psychological issues. Considering that they are one of the groups that abuse steroids the most, if you're looking for a canary in the coal mine they are it.
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