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Old 08-02-2013, 07:40 AM  
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Whitlock with a good article on the Riley Cooper situation

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We, the media, will blow this Riley Cooper teachable moment. Itís what we do when it comes to race. We look for good guys and bad guys, villains and heroes. We choose the politically correct path rather than the road to understanding.

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Riley Cooper, a receiver for the Philadelphia Eagles, did and said something very, very stupid and disgusting. Drunk and partying in a sea of whiteness, Cooper apparently lashed out at a black security guard and threatened to "fight every n****r here".

A cellphone camera captured Cooperís ignorance. It took a month, but the blogosphere unearthed the video and broadcast it to the world. The Eagles reacted responsibly, fining Cooper and forcing him to confront his mistake publicly with the media and privately with his teammates.

Watch what he said. Warning: Language is universally considered to be offensive . . .

I donít expect the media to respond as responsibly. Too many of us will think the solution is for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend Riley Cooper. Too many of us will think Riley Cooper in no way reflects on all of us.

Well, Iíve been young, drunk, filled with athletic testosterone and partying in a sea of blackness. Iím glad there were no cellphone cameras then. Iíve been middle-aged, drunk, filled with non-athletic cholesterol and partying in a sea of blackness. Iím glad no one recorded the foolish thoughts Iíve uttered when I assumed no one around me would be offended.

Maybe most of the people working in the media are perfect, immune to impure, biased thoughts or actions. Iím not. And no one I know is. What happens with age and maturity is we get better at combatting our biases and keeping them from spilling out of our mouths. When we intellectually evolve, we get better at seeing the stupidity of our biases and not letting them dictate our actions.

Iím extremely distrustful of anyone who claims theyíre free of biases. Theyíre dishonest or delusional.

For the most part, Riley Cooper handled his apology flawlessly. He forthrightly expressed the proper remorse and humbly answered every question.

ďThis is the lowest of lows,Ē Cooper said. ďThis is not the type of person I want to be portrayed as. This isnít the type of person I am. Iím extremely sorry.Ē

Thereís no room for Cooper to be totally honest. The media ó social and legitimate ó wonít allow Cooper to be transparent. What was captured on tape is a reflection of what type of person Cooper is.

Heís flawed. Heís a product of Americaís conflicted melting pot. That is not a knock on America. We have racial issues because weíre the most diverse nation on the planet. We have trouble working through those issues because dishonesty and simple-mindedness are rewarded.

Like all of us, Riley Cooper is biased. He needs to admit that to himself so he can adequately combat his biases and be a force for positive change.

I used to be proudly homophobic. I used the F-word regularly. In 1998, while sitting in the New England Patriots press box, I got in a back-and-forth exchange with Pats fans and cracked a ďjokeĒ that ended with me asking, ďDrew Bledsoe gay?Ē

The ensuing controversy started the process of me recognizing and realizing the utter ignorance of my homophobia. I used to be offended when people analogized the struggle for gay equality with black peopleís struggle for equality. I now get it and understand their struggle benefits our struggle and the overall fight for fairness.

I hope Cooper is allowed to evolve. I hope we donít demonize him to the point that he becomes John Rocker II and more entrenched in bigotry. I hope Cooper confronts who he is. He didnít threaten to fight every n****r because thereís no bigotry in his heart and mind. He did it because he has failed to deal with who he really is.

Heís in the same denial most of us are in. Iím talking about all of us ó black, white, brown and yellow.

I want to make one other point before I finish. Cooperís transgression isnít much of a locker-room issue for the Eagles. There are bigots of every color on sports teams. The beauty of sports is that teams force participants to put aside their biases and work together. Working together is different from liking or respecting each other.

Cooper isnít a coach or executive with the power to hire and fire people based on his racial biases. Cooper is a player. Heís a 25-year-old kid with immature thoughts. His teammates will move on as long as he plays at a high level.

Racial slurs fly on football fields somewhat regularly. Itís a violent game that brings out the worst in people. My junior season at Ball State, I played against a white Northern Illinois defensive tackle who N-bombed me most of the afternoon. I kept shouting at his mostly black defensive teammates about why they would tolerate such a flaming idiot. The next year, the same guy was the most courteous opponent I played against all season.

Letís help Cooper evolve and mature. We might be surprised by the results.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:55 PM   #76
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:58 PM   #77
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Yea I am aware there are black country artist. Had no idea Nelly was on there. There are white people on BET on occasion.

How about Speedvision?
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:58 PM   #78
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Here's how I feel about it:

Full disclosure: I'm black and a regionally well known hip-hop artist.

I don't care who says the word ****a.

I have black, white, mexican, and asian friends and we all say it to each other.

I think it's a beautiful thing when a white dude comes up to me and says, "Good show my ****a."

That's 100% percent love right there. And it speaks to the power of music that those barriers can be broken down. Especially when 40 years ago he would have said that word to me out of 100% hate.

I do think it's an unfortunate double standard that black people have created surrounding the word. I think it's unfair to take people's money and not allowing them to fully embrace the culture.

It's an old way of thinking now. Most black people don't really care as long as you come correct with it.

Give the black community some time. We're still figuring out this "True Equality" thing.

Remember, we've only really been a part of "True" American society for about 40 years. (give or take)

I always tell me black people that do disagree with me, "Martin Luther King didn't die so you could say ****a and white people couldn't. He died so we could be TRULY EQUAL.

I think in Riley Cooper's case it's just blatant, aggressive racism. I don't think Cooper's a racist. But I also don't think you can lay this at the black community's feet.

White people know what the score is. You guys have been using that word waaaaaaaay before black people took it and flipped it on it's ear.

So the "You guys say it" argument doesn't really work. I've never straight called someone a ****er out of anger because I was mad at them.

Forget the "a" or the "er" or whatever. It's about what's behind it to me.

We're talking about something positive vs something overtly and obviously negative.

I feel you guys on the hypocrisy angle. But Cooper knows what's up.

Even if he would been like "C'mon ****a, let me in" I have no problem with that whatsover.

But the way it was delivered bothers me. He's visibly angry, gritting his teeth and pointing. That's anger. Calling someone a ****er out of anger is the definition of racism and is wrong. And I think if we look at it objectively, we can all agree on that.

I also want to touch on the Blackpeoplemeet.com comment by maverick.

I also think it's a ****ing joke that it exists.

But I will say that all the Match.com and eharmony commercials you see are 98% white.

If you look at the testimonials, all the people are saying stuff like:

"I moved to a new city" "I'm tired of the bar scene" etc.

But the black guy says, "I wanna try something new."

That kind of got under my skin a little bit. It suggests that black men's interests in white women are purely sexual. I was wondering, "Why can't the black guy be in a new town or tired of the bar scene?"

So I think blackpeoplemeet.com (while I agree it's just a ****ing ploy for money from a certain group of people) I think it's important for us to be represented in other capacities other than the roles designated for us.

Thanks guys. One love.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:59 PM   #79
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:01 PM   #80
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Yea I am aware there are black country artist. Had no idea Nelly was on there. There are white people on BET on occasion.

How about Speedvision?
Is speedvision called WHITE entertainment television?

Pretty sure Speedvision covers racing from all around the world, not just Nascar anyway.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:02 PM   #81
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Is speedvision called WHITE entertainment television?

Pretty sure Speedvision covers racing from all around the world, not just Nascar anyway.
Its a joke man.

And if you ever watched much Speedvision you would know what I mean.

They have a hilarious show called "Are You Faster Than A Redneck".
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:05 PM   #82
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Yea I am aware there are black country artist. Had no idea Nelly was on there. There are white people on BET on occasion.

How about Speedvision?
I have respect for Darius Rucker and Nelly.

Cowboy Troy is not an artist. He's a ****ing coon shucking and jiving so the country audience can be like, "Oh a black guy in a cowboy hat!"

Cowboy Troy can lick my balls.

Full disclosure: I'm a big country music fan. Nothing after 1996 though. I like the classics.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:06 PM   #83
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I have respect for Darius Rucker and Nelly.

Cowboy Troy is not an artist. He's a ****ing coon shucking and jiving so the country audience can be like, "Oh a black guy in a cowboy hat!"

Cowboy Troy can lick my balls.

Full disclosure: I'm a big country music fan. Nothing after 1996 though. I like the classics.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #84
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I have respect for Darius Rucker and Nelly.

Cowboy Troy is not an artist. He's a ****ing coon shucking and jiving so the country audience can be like, "Oh a black guy in a cowboy hat!"

Cowboy Troy can lick my balls.

Full disclosure: I'm a big country music fan. Nothing after 1996 though. I like the classics.
Love me some Hootie/Rucker.

Current country is nothing more than pop-rock and yea Cowboy Troy seems to be a schtick to me.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:09 PM   #85
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I love how Darren Sharper said he couldn't be on the team with the guy. Really? So, you mean to tell me he was on teams that never used derogatory language towards anyone?? Riiiighhhttt....

I love how high and mighty these people (in media and NFL) who are offended are. If you are offended by that kind of language from boys in the locker room, then you are in the wrong profession.

I also love how the Eagles are going to send him to 'pray the racist away" camp. Sensitivity training??? . So are they doing that for every player who says '****er" or 'Cracker" or "pillowbiter". Every player in the league would be 'Sensitivity training".

Those players need to realize they **** up and say stupid racist, bigoted shit too, just like he did, and to give him some slack.
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Current country is nothing more than pop-rock.
The music may be "Pop Rock" but the lyrical content is definitely aimed at "country" audiences.
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