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Old 08-05-2013, 08:59 AM  
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Depth Chart

Is this official? Cannot find this on the Chief's website.


OFFENSE

WR: Jon Baldwin, Donnie Avery, Devon Wylie, Josh Bellamy, Frankie Hammond Jr.

LT: Branden Albert, Donald Stephenson, Dustin Waldron

LG: Jeff Allen, Matt Reynolds

C: Rodney Hudson, Eric Kush, A.J. Hawkins

RG: Jon Asamoah, Ryan Durand, Rokevious Watkins, Tommie Draheim

RT: Eric Fisher, Geoff Schwartz, Steven Baker

TE: Anthony Fasano, Travis Kelce, Tony Moeaki, Kevin Brock, Demetrius Harris

WR: Dwayne Bowe, Dexter McCluster, Junior Hemingway, Terrance Copper, Tyler Shoemaker, Jamar Newsome, Rico Richardson

QB: Alex Smith, Chase Daniel, Tyler Bray, Ricky Stanzi

RB: Jamaal Charles, Knile Davis, Shaun Draughn, Cyrus Gray, Jordan Roberts

FB: Anthony Sherman, Braden Wilson, Toben Opurum

DEFENSE

LDE: Tyson Jackson, Allen Bailey, Austen Lane, Mike Catapano

NT: Dontari Poe, Jerrell Powe, Miguel Chavis

RDE: Mike DeVito, Anthony Toribio, Marcus Dixon, Rob Lohr

LOLB: Justin Houston, Frank Zombo, Josh Martin

LILB: Akeem Jordan, Nico Johnson, Orie Lemon

RILB: Derrick Johnson, Zac Diles, Darin Drakeford, Chad Kilgore

ROLB: Tamba Hali, Edgar Jones, Ridge Wilson

LCB: Brandon Flowers, Jalil Brown, Vince Agnew, Greg Castillo, Conroy Black

RCB: Sean Smith, Dunta Robinson, Neiko Thorpe, Kamaal McIlwain

SS: Eric Berry, Quintin Demps, Bradley McDougald, Otha Foster III

FS: Kendrick Lewis, Husain Abdullah, Tysyn Hartman, Malcolm Bronson, Sanders Commings

SPECIALISTS

P: Dustin Colquitt, Ryan Succop

K: Ryan Succop, Dustin Colquitt

KO: Ryan Succop, Dustin Colquitt

LS: Thomas Gafford, Brad Madison

H: Dustin Colquitt, Chase Daniel

PR: Dexter McCluster, Devon Wylie

KR: Dexter McCluster, Devon Wylie
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:59 AM   #91
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any 34 defense needs some pass rush production from the RDE position, whether it's just a few sacks per season but also includes some consistent pressure on the QB.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:10 AM   #92
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any 34 defense needs some pass rush production from the RDE position, whether it's just a few sacks per season but also includes some consistent pressure on the QB.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:18 AM   #93
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It's a 3-4 ****ing alignment.

There's like, ONE really good passrushing 3-4 DL guy in the league and that's JJ Watt.

At least our line is going to be charged with creating disruption and big plays. That's exactly what I expect out of them. You'll notice a huge change this year.

In the meantime... DEREK WOLFEZ!!!!111
3-4 DEs with 5 or more sacks:

Watt
Antonio Smith
Calais Campbell
Corey Liuget
Quinton Coples
Haloti Ngata
Muhammed Wilkerson
Kendall Reyes

KC's entire DL: 5 sacks

I'm not entirely sure why you guys seem to think that saying "Derek Wolfe" is some sort of argument against the talent in Denver. Do you know what Wolfe played last season? He played 5-tech in base and 3-tech in nickel. You may recognize those as typical responsibilities for a 3-4 DE, not a 4-3 DE.

So, playing the same position as Tyson Jackson, Wolfe outperformed your entire DL, collectively. As a rookie.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:23 AM   #94
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Elite RB, receiver, 3 LB's, Corner, Safety, High level OL. Poe is a better talent than any schmo you have as well. DeVito is among the best against the run...but, but, but WOLFE, slapdick A, and slapdick B!!!!!!!
I want to make sure I'm understanding your sentence structure properly. Are you saying that Charles is elite, or are you saying that Charles, Bowe, Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers and Berry are elite?
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:24 AM   #95
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I want to make sure I'm understanding your sentence structure properly. Are you saying that Charles is elite, or are you saying that Charles, Bowe, Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers and Berry are elite?
KC>Dungver, now go turn over some cars and torch the place.
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3-4 DEs with 5 or more sacks:

Watt
Antonio Smith
Calais Campbell
Corey Liuget
Quinton Coples
Haloti Ngata
Muhammed Wilkerson
Kendall Reyes

KC's entire DL: 5 sacks

I'm not entirely sure why you guys seem to think that saying "Derek Wolfe" is some sort of argument against the talent in Denver. Do you know what Wolfe played last season? He played 5-tech in base and 3-tech in nickel. You may recognize those as typical responsibilities for a 3-4 DE, not a 4-3 DE.

So, playing the same position as Tyson Jackson, Wolfe outperformed your entire DL, collectively. As a rookie.
Pretty hard to get sacks on the QB when your primary job is to hang out, diagnose the play for a few seconds, then occupy the right blockers and gap.

Derek Wolfe is an argument because Knowmo probably thinks he's better than JJ Watt. He's just as much of a homer whack off for Donk fans as KC is for players like Albert. Far worse in fact, since he's only a rookie.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:33 AM   #97
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"Balanced" is not the term that comes to mind when I see a DL without any pass rushers. Or a WR corps with only a single receiving threat, and a below-average QB delivering the ball.
Have you heard of Dwayne Bowe. I agree the WR group as a whole is not great, but Dwayne Bowe is a beast.

Pass rushers...again agreed, but they are better than the past couple of years would suggest.

My BOLD prediction....the Chiefs will finish in the top 1/2 of NFL team sacks in 2013.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:52 AM   #98
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"Balanced" is not the term that comes to mind when I see a DL without any pass rushers. Or a WR corps with only a single receiving threat, and a below-average QB delivering the ball.
None of us know if this DL has any pass rushers because Romeo Crennel ran a 3-4 two gap stand up read and reach defense that blitzed less than 20% of the downs. I suspect we will see the Chiefs have much more ability to pass rush from the DL then any of us realized. Going to a 3-4 one gap penetrating defense is a whole different beast.

This is why I hated Crennel as a DC as much as I hated Daboll as an OC. Both schemes sucked more than any system the Chiefs have deployed in their history. Even the days of Marv Levy and the Wing-T were better than the schemes deployed on offense and defense last year. The players act as much relieved as excited by the change. We may even see Tyson Jackson turn into a beast.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:52 AM   #99
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I see your point. Truth is I like this place, respect you as a poster. Aids tree, fire, antifreeze, etc.
yea, it wasn't really about you because you really aren't a troll


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yea, it wasn't really about you because you really aren't a troll


Hef on the other hand ...
He talks football. Don't see that as trolling.
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:01 AM   #101
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Quality contributor.

Ok so this can be used to say Tyson sucks.
But it could also be used by someone to say one of our DE's is better
than Ngata and Jones from Balt. Sorry but the eye test tells me more than this chart.
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Pretty hard to get sacks on the QB when your primary job is to hang out, diagnose the play for a few seconds, then occupy the right blockers and gap.

Derek Wolfe is an argument because Knowmo probably thinks he's better than JJ Watt. He's just as much of a homer whack off for Donk fans as KC is for players like Albert. Far worse in fact, since he's only a rookie.
Yeah, there's a lot of talk about defensive scheme and attacking. Reminds me of every off-season for Denver from 2006-2008. It never made a difference though, because we didn't have the players.

So you're referencing a player that Knowmo "probably" overrates in a response to me. OK.
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He talks football. Don't see that as trolling.
he is here to start shit
he enjoys starting shit
the more shit he starts the better he likes it


subject matter is irrelevant to trolling
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Fair enough, you've certainly been here long enough to make that call. Imho if you are talking football and back your opinions with facts you aren't trolling.
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:30 AM   #105
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I'm here to talk football. Do I enjoy the fact that my opinions differ from nearly everyone else on here? Yes, I do. Talking with people you agree with is boring.
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