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Old 08-08-2013, 08:44 AM  
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NRA Wants 18-Year Olds To Buy Handguns

Because, there aren't enough 18 year old kids packing heat.....

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NRA asks Supreme Court to lift ban on handgun sales to teens
By Ben Goad - 08/07/13 02:22 PM ET

The National Rifle Association is asking the Supreme Court to strike down decades-old regulations prohibiting the sales of handguns to those under the age of 21.

The powerful gun lobby is challenging a lower federal court’s October ruling that upheld the ban. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit ruled that the current regulations are consistent with a long-held view that young adults between the ages of 18 and 20 “tend to be relatively immature and that denying them easy access to handguns would deter violent crime.”

“As with felons and the mentally ill, categorically restricting the presumptive Second Amendment rights of 18-to-20-year-olds does not violate the central concern of the Second Amendment,” the court found.

The court noted it is legal for adults under the age of 21 to buy other types of guns, including rifles and shotguns. Further, parents or guardians can give their 18 to 20-year-olds handguns as a gift, and there are no laws barring either the possession or use of a handgun by adults younger than 21.
Still, the law’s prohibition of commercial sales of handguns to young adults amounts to a “categorical burden on the fundamental right to keep and bear arms,” the NRA argued in its petition to the high court, filed last week.*
The group argues that the regulations fly in the face of the 2008 District of Columbia v. Heller ruling that allows people to carry handguns for self-defense.*

“The Framers’ decision to enshrine the Second Amendment and this Court’s decisions recognizing that the right it secures is both individual and fundamental are decisions with consequences," the NRA wrote in the 224-page petition. “One obvious consequence is that individuals above the legal age of majority cannot be denied any meaningful ability to purchase the quintessential means for exercising the core individual right.”

Officials with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, listed as respondent to the petition, did not immediately respond Wednesday to a request for comment.*

The court could decide as early as Sept. 30 whether or not to take up the case.

Noting that the justices have declined to hear other cases involving firearms, UCLA law professor Adam Winkler said it is unlikely that they would grant the NRA's request, particularly because the lower courts have consistently held up current law. 

Even if they do consider the case, Winkler said he expects the justices would side with the circuit courts, considering that 18 to 21-year-olds have an especially higher than average rates of suicide, criminal behavior and drug and alcohol abuse.

"On the other hand, we allow 18-year-olds to bear arms in defense of the nation," he said. "Perhaps they should be allowed to defend themselves."
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:57 AM   #61
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Especially, with him evaluating your behavior when his is similar.
Lmao. Crazy calling the kettle black.
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:59 AM   #62
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To the parents out there: If your child isn't mature enough to own a handgun by the age of 15 then you are a complete and utter failure as a parent.
I guess I am a failure as a parent then. My 15 yr old daughter wasn't close to being mature. If they are mature at 15 to own a handgun then they are mature enough to have sex.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #63
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Pretty soon we're all gonna need to learn to carry and how to use handguns, if you don't already know how.

Most people that have handled guns all their lives have started when they're 10-12 yrs old.

Might as well go out and buy what's left and head out to your local range and learn to use it. Take the necessary classes etc. More practice the better. And get out of areas that restrict guns like major inner cities if you can.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #64
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Violet criminals are the worst.
It takes a sick brain to break into a greenhouse and violate the violets.
Yes the thought does turn me green and the whole idea smells like fertilizer but we're trying to plant a seed in these violet criminals so they won't be perennial offenders.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #65
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I guess I am a failure as a parent then. My 15 yr old daughter wasn't close to being mature. If they are mature at 15 to own a handgun then they are mature enough to have sex.
If they are mature enough to have sex at fifteen they are mature enough to support and raise a child. THAT is when they're ready to have sex.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #66
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My daughter is 11 and I trust her enough, that I have shown her where my handgun is and how to load it if someone breaks in. And no, that does not mean she is physically mature enough to have sex.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:02 PM   #67
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That's like my child telling me to give him something and then he'll earn it. Show the responsibility and then earn the prize. Not the other way around.
So which of our constitutional right.... errrrr...rules of thumb do you feel need to be earned?
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:03 PM   #68
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Pretty soon we're all gonna need to learn to carry and how to use handguns, if you don't already know how.

Most people that have handled guns all their lives have started when they're 10-12 yrs old.

Might as well go out and buy what's left and head out to your local range and learn to use it. Take the necessary classes etc. More practice the better. And get out of areas that restrict guns like major inner cities if you can.
Every time you type something I have the vision of Randy Quaid's character in Major League 2 doing the voiceover in my head and it works well with the content of your words.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:03 PM   #69
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I guess I am a failure as a parent then. My 15 yr old daughter wasn't close to being mature. If they are mature at 15 to own a handgun then they are mature enough to have sex.
Serious question - why do all liberals automatically assume that just because someone owns a gun they're going to do something bad with it?

Does your 15 year old daughter have access to a hammer? A knife? Then should kill you in your sleep with one of those just as easily as if she shot you.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:05 PM   #70
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To the parents out there: If your child isn't mature enough to own a handgun by the age of 15 then you are a complete and utter failure as a parent.


I have come to not expect such ridiculous hyperbole from you.
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Yes the thought does turn me green and the whole idea smells like fertilizer but we're trying to plant a seed in these violet criminals so they won't be perennial offenders.
LOL I missed that entirely. eyema moran
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Especially, with him evaluating your behavior when his is similar. He just coats it with his psycho-babble.
He is really having a problem staying on subject lately. Personal attacks are easier.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:07 PM   #73
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I will agree to suspend gun rights for 18-21 if their voting rights are also suspended so we don't get any more young morons voting Obama.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:09 PM   #74
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If it was up to me, you'd need to be able to do to three things to vote:

1. Have a valid ID
2. Pass a basic intelligence test
3. Have a ****ing job

There goes two-thirds of the Democratic base, though, so we can't let that happen.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:09 PM   #75
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So which of our constitutional right.... errrrr...rules of thumb do you feel need to be earned?
You're confounding the issue. We were talking about the concept of showing responsibility first then privilege vs. privilege first in hopes that one would miraculously show responsibility with it.
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