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Old 08-12-2013, 09:26 AM  
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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds

Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds

Rob Waugh 3 hours ago Yahoo! News

Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.

A team led by Miron Zuckerman of the University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies

Even in extreme old age, intelligent people are less likely to believe, the researchers found - and the reasons why people with high IQs shun religion may not be as simple as previously thought.

Previous studies have tended to assume that intelligent people simply “know better”, the researchers write - but the reasons may be more complex.

For instance, intelligent people are more likely to be married, and more likely to be successful in life - and this may mean they “need” religion less.

The studies used in Zuckerman's paper included a life-long analysis of the beliefs of a group of 1,500 gifted children - those with IQs over 135 - in a study which began in 1921 and continues today.

Even at 75 to 91 years of age, the children from Lewis Terman’s study scored lower for religiosity than the general population - contrary to the widely held belief that people turn to God as they age. The researchers noted that data was lacking about religious attitudes in old age and say, “Additional research is needed to resolve this issue.”

As early as 1958, Michael Argyle concluded, “Although intelligent children grasp religious concepts earlier, they are also the first to doubt the truth of religion, and intelligent students are much less likely to accept orthodox beliefs, and rather less likely to have pro-religious attitudes.”

A 1916 study quoted in Zuckerman’s paper (Leuba) found that, “58% of randomly selected scientists in the United States expressed disbelief in, or doubt regarding the existence of God; this proportion rose to nearly 70% for the most eminent scientists.”

The paper, published in the academic journal Personality and Social Psychology Review, said “Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme—the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who “know better.”

The answer may, however, be more complex. Intelligent people may simply be able to provide themselves with the psychological benefits offered by religion - such as “self-regulation and self-enhancement”, because they are more likely to be successful, and have stable lives.

“Intelligent people typically spend more time in school—a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits,” the researchers write. “More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.”

“Last, more intelligent people are more likely to get and stay married (greater attachment), though for intelligent people, that too comes later in life. We therefore suggest that as intelligent people move from young adulthood to adulthood and then to middle age, the benefits of intelligence may continue to accrue.”

The researchers suggest that further research on the “function” of religion may reveal more.

“People possessing the functions that religion provides are likely to adopt atheism, people lacking these very functions (e.g., the poor, the helpless) are likely to adopt theism,” the researchers wrote.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:26 AM   #2
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:29 AM   #3
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We shall see how people that "know better" fare at the Great White Throne Judgement. I'm sure this study isn't slanted at all.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:41 AM   #4
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We shall see how people that "know better" fare at the Great White Throne Judgement. I'm sure this study isn't slanted at all.
I, for one, am extremely upset that sharks get to determine our merits when we die.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:42 AM   #5
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I, for one, am extremely upset that sharks get to determine our merits when we die.
Sounds like an interesting religious pilgrimage.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:58 AM   #6
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Any studies on the intelligence of people who think disarming law abiding citizens will make us all safer?

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This kinda shit is why people can't stand atheists. Always telling everyone how much smarter they are than everyone else, and how stupid people must be to believe in a God. They must be really insecure.
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You don’t say. Sure wouldn’t know it from the atheists that post here.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:22 AM   #11
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Better a shark than the band. I hear their pyrotechnics are killer.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:41 AM   #12
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I did not read the study but I question 'religiosity' as a term.

Does this mean that possibly higher IQ people avoid mainstream or organized religions but possibly still believe in some greater force / god ... etc?

I don't really question the results so much (Its already fairly well known that the more 'educated' you are, the less you adhere to a religion)......

but I question the terms (religiosity) and I wonder if the people who score low on the test would be agnosts (my guess) or actual atheists (my guess is not).


Athiests seem to constantly need to find ways to make themselves feel superior and/or justify their decision and lord it over others......which is total hypocrisy. I would imagine there are some other problems with the methods of these 'tests' if they used a hodge podge of data from 1921 and onward also...but I honestly do not care enough to look into it.

There are clearly very intelligent people who believe in God, or some other 'religiousity' , or spiritual concepts.....

There are clearly dumbasses (OP, Dave Lane etc) who are Athiests and try to cram it down other people's throats...

There are clearly dumbasses who believe in God (Anjem Choudry, Phleps etc)

There are clearly very smart people who are athiests (hitchings et all) but they still seem like arrogant pricks who wouldnt be much fun to hang out with LOL....(JK my best friend is a hard core athiest and we have a lot of fun together)


Anyone who paints the "other side" with a broad brush is just a jerk, Like OP, pretty much.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:47 AM   #13
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Damn you are ****ing retarded. Every time a liberal poll makes such an assertion, the exact opposite is found true ( see the test that excluded many basic logic tests in favor for word association in the past ). If the article shows anything, it shows that indoctrination is alive & well. Like most dumbasses, Atheist have to keep telling themselves they are intelligent to mask their inadequacies. Sadly, it doesn't work that way - we still all know you're a ****ing idiot.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:57 AM   #14
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Anyone seen the study showing the higher the IQ of a women, the less likely to breed. Progressives die out on their own apparently. They don't survive—they're not the fittest.
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LOL and here come all the newly minted experts in interpreting studies without reading the studies or understanding statistics.


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