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Old 08-12-2013, 09:26 AM  
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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds

Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds

Rob Waugh 3 hours ago Yahoo! News

Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.

A team led by Miron Zuckerman of the University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies

Even in extreme old age, intelligent people are less likely to believe, the researchers found - and the reasons why people with high IQs shun religion may not be as simple as previously thought.

Previous studies have tended to assume that intelligent people simply “know better”, the researchers write - but the reasons may be more complex.

For instance, intelligent people are more likely to be married, and more likely to be successful in life - and this may mean they “need” religion less.

The studies used in Zuckerman's paper included a life-long analysis of the beliefs of a group of 1,500 gifted children - those with IQs over 135 - in a study which began in 1921 and continues today.

Even at 75 to 91 years of age, the children from Lewis Terman’s study scored lower for religiosity than the general population - contrary to the widely held belief that people turn to God as they age. The researchers noted that data was lacking about religious attitudes in old age and say, “Additional research is needed to resolve this issue.”

As early as 1958, Michael Argyle concluded, “Although intelligent children grasp religious concepts earlier, they are also the first to doubt the truth of religion, and intelligent students are much less likely to accept orthodox beliefs, and rather less likely to have pro-religious attitudes.”

A 1916 study quoted in Zuckerman’s paper (Leuba) found that, “58% of randomly selected scientists in the United States expressed disbelief in, or doubt regarding the existence of God; this proportion rose to nearly 70% for the most eminent scientists.”

The paper, published in the academic journal Personality and Social Psychology Review, said “Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme—the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who “know better.”

The answer may, however, be more complex. Intelligent people may simply be able to provide themselves with the psychological benefits offered by religion - such as “self-regulation and self-enhancement”, because they are more likely to be successful, and have stable lives.

“Intelligent people typically spend more time in school—a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits,” the researchers write. “More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.”

“Last, more intelligent people are more likely to get and stay married (greater attachment), though for intelligent people, that too comes later in life. We therefore suggest that as intelligent people move from young adulthood to adulthood and then to middle age, the benefits of intelligence may continue to accrue.”

The researchers suggest that further research on the “function” of religion may reveal more.

“People possessing the functions that religion provides are likely to adopt atheism, people lacking these very functions (e.g., the poor, the helpless) are likely to adopt theism,” the researchers wrote.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:02 PM   #91
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Looks like this thread became everything Cosmo thought it would be and more.
It's like you can't even post a study about religious people not being smart anymore without some people getting all upset. Lesson learned.

Or post anything without it becoming an argument about the apparent fatness frazod and native.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:02 PM   #92
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I never said anything like that. This is pure babbling gibberish.

Frankly, I don't know why some people are so defensive about this study. It didn't say every religious person is stupid.

Just a lot of you.
The bell curve didn't say every black or hispanic person is stupid. I don't know why some people got so defensive about that study.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:05 PM   #94
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The bell curve didn't say every black or hispanic person is stupid. I don't know why some people got so defensive about that study.
you forgot to add the




That is his way of saying QED
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It's like you can't even post a study about religious people not being smart anymore without some people getting all upset. Lesson learned. .

You should've already known the lesson about not discussing group IQ studies. After all, liberals were the first to say they were "biased" and "racist" and that IQ itself was a "social construct" that didn't really exist.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:07 PM   #96
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You are terrible at reading people and just plain dumb.
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This is not shocking news.

Sorta like water is wet.
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This is not shocking news.

Sorta like water is wet.
Wow, you're a true bigot.
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Yes he mustve 'read you wrong' to interpret your 100 posts about how lame rep is and how rep doesnt matter and how much you dont care about rep as being rage & butthurt on your part....

I mean I know when I don't care about something I always make 1000 posts about it and how lame it is.

Amirite?

You must care an awful lot about KC Native then.
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Wow, you're a true bigot.
From you, I might have to change my sig. Lots of Internet cred to that comment.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:15 PM   #101
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The bell curve didn't say every black or hispanic person is stupid. I don't know why some people got so defensive about that study.
I don't recall the details of that, so I can't really comment. You do like to dredge up old stuff no one currently cares about though, don't you (What about Tawana Brawley!!!)

I just don't think the comparison you are somewhat painfully trying to make is a good one. People don't get to choose their race/ethnicity. So if you want to argue some races/ethnicities inherently have lower IQs, go ahead and make it.

Religious beliefs, at least as adults, are chosen. This particular study, which is a study of other studies, concludes that religious people on the whole have lower IQs. Your posts appear to support the conclusion.
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You must care an awful lot about KC Native then.
I care about everyone! I never said I didnt. & I also care when people make false statements about me that they cannot back up.
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You should've already known the lesson about not discussing group IQ studies. After all, liberals were the first to say they were "biased" and "racist" and that IQ itself was a "social construct" that didn't really exist.
Again, for some reason, you don't seem to be able to grasp the difference between a group you choose to join and a group you are in without a choice.

And I don't know or care what "liberals" said. It has nothing to do with this or me.
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Is that you Sheldon?
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As a non-believer, this study doesn't bother me. But then, it wouldn't bother me much if a study came out that showed football fans have a lower IQ than fans of baseball. I'm still always going to choose football over baseball and assume that it's the rest of you clowns pulling down our average.
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