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Old 08-15-2013, 09:46 PM  
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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/20...-carolina?lite

It was only four days ago that North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) signed sweeping new voting restrictions into law (despite his own personal confusion over what the law says and does). But it'll probably be a little while until we start to see the practical effects, right?

Wrong. Voter-suppression efforts are off to a fast start in North Carolina (thanks to my colleague Tricia McKinney and Facebook commenter Sharon Doherty for the heads-up).

Within hours of Gov. Pat McCrory signing a Republican-backed bill this week making sweeping changes to the state's voting laws, local elections boards in two college towns made moves that could make it harder for students to vote.

The Watauga County Board of Elections voted Monday to eliminate an early voting site and election-day polling precinct on the campus of Appalachian State University.

The Pasquotank County Board of Elections on Tuesday barred an Elizabeth City State University senior from running for city council, ruling his on-campus address couldn't be used to establish local residency. Following the decision, the head of the county's Republican Party said he plans to challenge the voter registrations of more students at the historically black university ahead of upcoming elections.

Much of the criticism of the voting restrictions in North Carolina have focused on Republican efforts to suppress African-American and low-income voter participation, but efforts to target students -- who tend to be more progressive -- are a key provision of the new state law.

That Republicans are already hard at work at Elizabeth City State University checks two boxes on the GOP to-do list -- it targets students and African Americans since the school is a historically black college.

Remember, the use of student IDs for voting came up quite a bit during the legislative debate on the new voter-suppression law. State Sen. Tom Apodaca (R), the bill's chief sponsor, argued that college IDs "could be manipulated" and must therefore be excluded.

Did Apodaca have any evidence of anyone, anywhere ever using a manipulated student ID to commit voter fraud? No. Did Apodaca show that college IDs are more prone to manipulation than other forms of identification? No.

But the provision was included anyway. And now that it's part of the law, the GOP is already hard at work.

Correction: This post originally referenced possible tax penalties for parents whose kids registered to vote using their school addresses, but that was part of a separate measure that was not approved, and wasn't included in the voting restrictions signed this week. The incorrect sentence has been removed.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:55 PM   #61
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Do you understand that expanded early voting is a benefit to the incumbent?
Who cares? An incumbent has a ton of advantages mostly in money. If you want to get rid of incumbents then we need to get a term-limits law passed (good luck with that and I even support term-limits).
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:58 PM   #62
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Are there really people who don't have a government-issued ID? It has to be a very small proportion of the population. No driver's license, passport, state ID, birth certificate, immigration forms, nothing? Are these nomadic peoples wandering the plains killing their own food?
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:22 PM   #63
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Isn't a bill with your name and address on it a form of id?
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:51 PM   #64
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Isn't a bill with your name and address on it a form of id?
Try cashing a check or getting a job with that or anything ****ing else where ID is needed. I am not sure if you are serious with this silly question~
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:55 PM   #65
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Try cashing a check or getting a job with that or anything ****ing else where ID is needed. I am not sure if you are serious with this silly question~
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/voterid/

http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/votinginperson.html

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Old 08-16-2013, 08:31 PM   #66
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you are such an arrogant ****head. So you do not think it would be reasonable to request some proof that it is your address and your name. Do me a favor ****head take a bill with your name and address on it to a bank and try to cash a check or do anything else that requires proper ID and get back with me~
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:44 PM   #67
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #68
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you are such an arrogant ****head. So you do not think it would be reasonable to request some proof that it is your address and your name. Do me a favor ****head take a bill with your name and address on it to a bank and try to cash a check or do anything else that requires proper ID and get back with me~
To prove proof of residency in MO after returning from CA, in order to get plates, all I needed was an electric bill and/or a bank statement.
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you are such an arrogant ****head. So you do not think it would be reasonable to request some proof that it is your address and your name. Do me a favor ****head take a bill with your name and address on it to a bank and try to cash a check or do anything else that requires proper ID and get back with me~
We aren't talking about your weekly trip to the payday loan place, we're talking about voter id. I was right. **** off.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:21 PM   #71
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Isn't a bill with your name and address on it a form of id?
In the case of the new NC law it is a photo id (approved Government ID)

http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids
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Are there really people who don't have a government-issued ID? It has to be a very small proportion of the population. No driver's license, passport, state ID, birth certificate, immigration forms, nothing? Are these nomadic peoples wandering the plains killing their own food?
NPR did a report on this today. Almost 10% of people in some of the poorer, rural North Carolina counties lacked a form of state ID.

A few of the interviewees couldn't get a state ID because they didn't have birth certificates, and didn't have birth certificates because they were born in home via midwives.

The bill also explicitly prohibited a food stamp card as a form of identification, FWIW.
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In the case of the new NC law it is a photo id (approved Government ID)

http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids
TSA has nothing to do with this.
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Good Lord, guys. When he asked if a phone bill was legal ID, all you had to do was say no. Unclench your sphincters a bit.
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TSA has nothing to do with this.
I know but that is what the law was based on. People will have to produce one of those ID's that is on that list or their "free" state issued photo id.
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