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Kansas School Celebrates Islam. How 'bout that?

Lefty religion haters like many here will go nuts over Jesus being mentioned in a school. And they will defend this bullshit.

Congrats Kansas.





Parents at a Wichita, Kan. elementary school were shocked to discover a giant wall display inside the building promoting the five pillars of Islam.

The large exhibit was erected before the start of the school year as part of a religion component being taught at Minneha Core Knowledge Magnet School, a school district spokesperson told Fox News.

“The bulletin board that originally caused the concern does represent the 5 Pillars of Islam — in a historical context of their studies,” the spokesperson said.

The district said the photograph of the bulletin board is misleading because it is “without context.”

“There is also a painting of the Last Supper hanging in the school as part of the study of art and the Renaissance period,” the spokesperson said. “A photo take of a bulletin board without context is misleading, and some have taken it out of context without having all the information.”

Nevertheless, the school has removed the Islamic bulletin board until the subject matter is taught later this fall.

School officials said the study of Islam is part of their “Core Knowledge” magnet curriculum.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:13 AM   #61
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Im amused by the open attitude displayed toward the teaching of Islam contrasted to what we know would be the attitude if the tables were turned and the anti christians saw a bulletin board celebrating the New Testament.

Wouldn't it be more consistent to demand NO religion be allowed taught in school...or is it just Christian culture you find so devoid of value?
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:16 AM   #62
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Im amused by the open attitude displayed toward the teaching of Islam contrasted to what we know would be the attitude if the tables were turned and the anti christians saw a bulletin board celebrating the New Testament.

Wouldn't it be more consistent to demand NO religion be allowed taught in school...or is it just Christian culture you find so devoid of value?
Where is the celebration on that bulletin board?
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:24 AM   #63
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Im amused by the open attitude displayed toward the teaching of Islam contrasted to what we know would be the attitude if the tables were turned and the anti christians saw a bulletin board celebrating the New Testament.
Please explain how this is what is happening.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:27 AM   #64
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Im amused by the open attitude displayed toward the teaching of Islam contrasted to what we know would be the attitude if the tables were turned and the anti christians saw a bulletin board celebrating the New Testament.

Wouldn't it be more consistent to demand NO religion be allowed taught in school...or is it just Christian culture you find so devoid of value?
I have no problem with a history of religions class that covers not only Islam and Christianity but also Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroasrtianism, Greek and Roman mythology, Norse mythology, etc, etc. Learning about the history of religion, man's reliance on it, how it shapes cultures and mindsets, etc. is a positive thing as far as I'm concerned.

That bulletin board doesn't celebrate Islam just like a bulletin board displaying the names of the books of the bible doesn't celebrate Christianity or a bulletin board showing the Norse concept of worlds/Yggdrasil doesn't celebrate worship of Thor and Odin.

Heck, the painting of the last supper comes closer to "celebration" than that. And it's all about intent... a portrait of the last supper with the "These things do in remembrance of me" quote underneath it has a much different intent than the same portrait with the quote "The Last Supper: One of Leonardo da Vinci's masterpieces" underneath it.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:45 AM   #65
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Im amused by the open attitude displayed toward the teaching of Islam contrasted to what we know would be the attitude if the tables were turned and the anti christians saw a bulletin board celebrating the New Testament.

Wouldn't it be more consistent to demand NO religion be allowed taught in school...or is it just Christian culture you find so devoid of value?
there are two different thoughts of teaching.

There is teaching to be a part of, and there is teaching to have an understanding of.

That's the problem. They were teaching the very basics of what Islam is.

They weren't teaching the kids to FOLLOW ISLAM.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:48 AM   #66
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Where is the celebration on that bulletin board?

who said there was?
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:49 AM   #67
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there are two different thoughts of teaching.

There is teaching to be a part of, and there is teaching to have an understanding of.

That's the problem. They were teaching the very basics of what Islam is.

They weren't teaching the kids to FOLLOW ISLAM.
To be fair, we don't really know what they were teaching.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:52 AM   #68
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I can agree with you to the extent that practitioners of Islam can be peaceful people, but I think there's a significant difference between Islam and Christianity if you look at the history of the two. Christianity developed among persecuted people who practiced their religion underground for centuries before it became an accepted religion. Even then, while many of it's practitioners committed violent acts, it was centuries before the Crusades started. Meanwhile, Islam was developed by people who spread it by the sword and it was that violent expansionism that triggered the Crusades as a reaction.

Since then, Christianity has moderated along with western civilization. Westernized practitioners of Islam tend to be moderate too, but there is widespread support for violent jihad in the modern day Islamic world.

I guess my point is that Islam *is* fundamentally violent because it was created by an aggressively expansionist people whereas Christianity has been used by violent people at various times during history, but it wasn't created to be spread by warfare.
You have got to be kidding me. The Roman Catholics would kill in the very same fashion that the extremists of Islam do today.

They both would retard the meaning of what is actually written in the Bible/Quran to fit their ideals to support their ****ed up inner workings.

there is no difference. The only difference is that now days people can speak up about it, and fight against it, and 2000 years ago would of gotten you and you entire family wiped out and if not that, at the very least shunned.

This is a ridiculous comparison of how to say oh, modern day Islam is built on violence. That's the exact ignorance of WHY it needs to be explained.

There is nothing violent about Islam as a religion. Its extremist preying on the ignorant. It is the extremist convincing CHILDREN that the Quran states they have to hate infidels, and kill them. That is what Mohammed is teaching.

Most of the extremist cant even read. They are taught how to hate. That's the problem.

And clearly, no offense patteau your misunderstanding of what the Islam foundation is built upon, just caused you to make a failed assumption that a majority of the ignorant world is being fed.

Islam is in no way shape or form violent.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:53 AM   #69
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In High School we had a world studies class where for a few weeks we learned about Daoism, Confucianism, Hinduism, etc.

I'm glad we didn't have a bunch of morons outraging then, or I wouldn't have gotten to celebrate Daoism by going to the park during the class to be one with nature.

However, I could have used those morons' outrage when we had to make sushi...

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To be fair, we don't really know what they were teaching.
Unless those kids were walking out with Qurans, prayer beads, and prayer mats, they weren't teaching the kids to FOLLOW Mohammed.
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I remember learning about the Schism, Reformation, and Inquisition in World History. Damn those zealots for indoctrinating me.

Oh, and...

“The bulletin board that originally caused the concern does represent the 5 Pillars of Islam — in a historical context of their studies,” the spokesperson said.

I know context is an awful thing in this society, because it actually requires one to think. Maybe we should just fight a war on context.
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I remember learning about the Schism, Reformation, and Inquisition in World History. Damn those zealots for indoctrinating me.

Oh, and...

“The bulletin board that originally caused the concern does represent the 5 Pillars of Islam — in a historical context of their studies,” the spokesperson said.

I know context is an awful thing in this society, because it actually requires one to think. Maybe we should just fight a war on context.
and people wonder why America is so behind educationally behind a lot of Europe and Asia.
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You have got to be kidding me. The Roman Catholics would kill in the very same fashion that the extremists of Islam do today.

They both would retard the meaning of what is actually written in the Bible/Quran to fit their ideals to support their ****ed up inner workings.

there is no difference. The only difference is that now days people can speak up about it, and fight against it, and 2000 years ago would of gotten you and you entire family wiped out and if not that, at the very least shunned.

This is a ridiculous comparison of how to say oh, modern day Islam is built on violence. That's the exact ignorance of WHY it needs to be explained.

There is nothing violent about Islam as a religion. Its extremist preying on the ignorant. It is the extremist convincing CHILDREN that the Quran states they have to hate infidels, and kill them. That is what Mohammed is teaching.

Most of the extremist cant even read. They are taught how to hate. That's the problem.

And clearly, no offense patteau your misunderstanding of what the Islam foundation is built upon, just caused you to make a failed assumption that a majority of the ignorant world is being fed.

Islam is in no way shape or form violent.

Osam Bin Laden, Iran, Hezbollah, etc. disagree.
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Lefty religion haters like many here will go nuts over Jesus being mentioned in a school. And they will defend this bullshit.

Congrats Kansas.





Parents at a Wichita, Kan. elementary school were shocked to discover a giant wall display inside the building promoting the five pillars of Islam.

The large exhibit was erected before the start of the school year as part of a religion component being taught at Minneha Core Knowledge Magnet School, a school district spokesperson told Fox News.

“The bulletin board that originally caused the concern does represent the 5 Pillars of Islam — in a historical context of their studies,” the spokesperson said.

The district said the photograph of the bulletin board is misleading because it is “without context.”

“There is also a painting of the Last Supper hanging in the school as part of the study of art and the Renaissance period,” the spokesperson said. “A photo take of a bulletin board without context is misleading, and some have taken it out of context without having all the information.”

Nevertheless, the school has removed the Islamic bulletin board until the subject matter is taught later this fall.

School officials said the study of Islam is part of their “Core Knowledge” magnet curriculum.
your and idiot

regardless, kansas does suk
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A picture if the last supper hanging in the same school isn't Christian trite? Please.
It doesn't compare. That is a study of aesthetics, not a provocative display of religious endorsement. If one could make a painting of mohammed without the threat of beheading, I would say the same about that.
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