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Old 08-19-2013, 09:50 PM  
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Kansas School Celebrates Islam. How 'bout that?

Lefty religion haters like many here will go nuts over Jesus being mentioned in a school. And they will defend this bullshit.

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Parents at a Wichita, Kan. elementary school were shocked to discover a giant wall display inside the building promoting the five pillars of Islam.

The large exhibit was erected before the start of the school year as part of a religion component being taught at Minneha Core Knowledge Magnet School, a school district spokesperson told Fox News.

“The bulletin board that originally caused the concern does represent the 5 Pillars of Islam — in a historical context of their studies,” the spokesperson said.

The district said the photograph of the bulletin board is misleading because it is “without context.”

“There is also a painting of the Last Supper hanging in the school as part of the study of art and the Renaissance period,” the spokesperson said. “A photo take of a bulletin board without context is misleading, and some have taken it out of context without having all the information.”

Nevertheless, the school has removed the Islamic bulletin board until the subject matter is taught later this fall.

School officials said the study of Islam is part of their “Core Knowledge” magnet curriculum.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:03 PM   #91
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As to the bolded, I would be wiling to agree, except that many prominent, mainstream Islamic leaders not only accept but endorse the radicals. What is said on Al Jereza in arabic is often very different than the public comments made in English as well.
Could you translate some for us to give us some examples?
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:03 PM   #92
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And a vast majority of Christians, myself included, were extremely critical of him and the Catholic Church for their conduct.
So if the higher ups aren't checking their own, the lowers check them and that's good enough for you to say that your religion is morally superior, but you don't afford that to the Muslims, because as you said, when the local Muslim leaders denounce violence, that's not good enough for you, you want the big boys to do it...
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:03 PM   #93
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Kansas School... 08-20-2013 01:00 PM Chiefshrink How about WAR ON AMERICA and the goal to destroy America and why the Lefties and the Terrorists have something HUGE in common !!! Jesus's principals(The Bible) created America and Islam only wants to destroy the USA and why Lefties love Islam !
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Put up a cross in the school and see what happens. This was very ill thought out by someone at the school.
the article mentions the last supper being displayed.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:26 PM   #95
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No offense, but it sounds like you're basing too much off personal experience. The Islamic community as a whole has certainly not endorsed extremist violence, and many instances could be shown where they've condemned it.

This is exactly why education about the religion is important, regardless of whether you agree with the religion or not...
Maybe. I watch the news, I read, and will be the first to admit that I have not extended contact with many Muslims.

I do think it is a valid observation to state that the leaders of Islam have allowed the radicals to define the image of their religion, particularly in the western world. The radicals, and the failure of many nations in the middle east to even acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist, contribute to Islam's violent image.

Islam, as a religion, is more violent than its contemporaries at the moment, in my opinion.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #96
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Maybe. I watch the news, I read, and will be the first to admit that I have not extended contact with many Muslims.

I do think it is a valid observation to state that the leaders of Islam have allowed the radicals to define the image of their religion, particularly in the western world. The radicals, and the failure of many nations in the middle east to even acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist, contribute to Islam's violent image.

Islam, as a religion, is more violent than its contemporaries at the moment, in my opinion.
There it is. That's what I wanted to hear.

Your information is all second hand information. Well sir, I spent two years deep in Muslim territory, spent time in both Kuwait, and Iraq, and I can tell you that from people in the know that the Quran in no way shape or form endorses violence. It is perverted by the people who taught to preach it as a means to use violence against infidels.

I am not going to pretend that I can read Arabic, or that I have ever read a Quran because I haven't. But I walked hand in hand with a translator in both of my deployments and have had many a discussion about the Islam faith. One of our families closet friends is a Muslim, she is a Sunni and her and I have had this discussion on several occasions.

With any religion, there are extremists, and with Religion there have been extremists all the way back to the discovery of time. The Romans used to invade countries claiming they were doing so under the guidance of God and doing God's work. The early Roman Catholics were some of the most violent perverters of the Bible.

Any religion can be manipulated to serve a purpose. And in this world there is no stronger manipulator than religion.

So singling out Osama Bin Laden as your justification for a religion being a violent religion is misinformed at its best.
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the article mentions the last supper being displayed.
That can be justified as a work of art too.
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Agnostic here.

That said, it didn't take much to spot the hypocrites in this thread. For the slow of wit, it's you libtards again. In your defense, that idiot browns, 9er WTFever fan should be taking some of the heat off your stupidity. I seldom run into one that blatantly ****ed up.

Now feel free to continue on your crusade (oops) defending the poor poor muslims. They need your support now more than ever, what with all the non-condemnation of terrorism and all. Religion of peace, right?
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No, of course not. You can't hold an entire religion responsible for the actions of extremists who participate. Islam certainly appears to have more extremists, I wouldn't argue that. But Islam can't be defined by the actions of their extremists anymore than Christianity can be defined by the actions of the Westboro church.
There are two major problems with this line of thinking...

#1 Islam by it's very nature is an extremist religion. You'd have to be willfully blind or criminally ignorant to not be able to see that. Just look at the central figures of each religion. Jesus walked around preaching peace and love like some dirty hippy while Muhammad conquered cities and regularly had people tortured and killed.

#2 Your definition of extremists is fine when applied solely within a group but doesn't work when comparing across groups. Yes, the Westboro people are extremists... they are offensive and don't represent mainstream Christians.. HUGE difference between a Muslim "extremist" who blows himself up or has a woman stoned to death. Most Christian "extremists" would be seen as moderate Muslims... and that is a major problem.
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Why isn't anyone complaining that the Last Supper picture didn't get taken down as well?
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Agnostic here.

That said, it didn't take much to spot the hypocrites in this thread. For the slow of wit, it's you libtards again. In your defense, that idiot browns, 9er WTFever fan should be taking some of the heat off your stupidity. I seldom run into one that blatantly ****ed up.

Now feel free to continue on your crusade (oops) defending the poor poor muslims. They need your support now more than ever, what with all the non-condemnation of terrorism and all. Religion of peace, right?
You guys need to learn to leave sports talk to sports talk.

I was actually trying to be serious in this thread. Your lack of understanding about a culture and religion and overall dislike for me is fine. But shouting and not saying anything, except blah blah blah, stupid, dumbass wrong, blah blah blah, is not really helping out the argument. Tell me exactly why I am wrong?
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There are two major problems with this line of thinking...

#1 Islam by it's very nature is an extremist religion. You'd have to be willfully blind or criminally ignorant to not be able to see that. Just look at the central figures of each religion. Jesus walked around preaching peace and love like some dirty hippy while Muhammad conquered cities and regularly had people tortured and killed.

#2 Your definition of extremists is fine when applied solely within a group but doesn't work when comparing across groups. Yes, the Westboro people are extremists... they are offensive and don't represent mainstream Christians.. HUGE difference between a Muslim "extremist" who blows himself up or has a woman stoned to death. Most Christian "extremists" would be seen as moderate Muslims... and that is a major problem.
And the Romans did stomp around taking over countries doing the same thing using the Catholic Church as their permission slip?

Like I said. Any religion can be perverted and used as a manipulation.

Christianity is no different.
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There it is. That's what I wanted to hear.

Your information is all second hand information. Well sir, I spent two years deep in Muslim territory, spent time in both Kuwait, and Iraq, and I can tell you that from people in the know that the Quran in no way shape or form endorses violence. It is perverted by the people who taught to preach it as a means to use violence against infidels.

I am not going to pretend that I can read Arabic, or that I have ever read a Quran because I haven't. But I walked hand in hand with a translator in both of my deployments and have had many a discussion about the Islam faith. One of our families closet friends is a Muslim, she is a Sunni and her and I have had this discussion on several occasions.

With any religion, there are extremists, and with Religion there have been extremists all the way back to the discovery of time. The Romans used to invade countries claiming they were doing so under the guidance of God and doing God's work. The early Roman Catholics were some of the most violent perverters of the Bible.

Any religion can be manipulated to serve a purpose. And in this world there is no stronger manipulator than religion.

So singling out Osama Bin Laden as your justification for a religion being a violent religion is misinformed at its best.

Except I did not single out Osama. Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran were included, and that was just off of the top of my head.

Any religion can be manipulated. My point is that the radicals who are manipulating Islam are the ones who are driving the bus right now, while the moderate Muslim majority seems to be content to sit on the bus and do nothing about it.
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