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Old 08-20-2013, 10:13 AM  
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“We were bored and didn’t have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.”

That’s what one Oklahoma teen allegedly told police was the reason he and his two friends decided to kill a man who was jogging near them.

The three teens, ages 15, 16 and 17, reportedly shot a baseball player for East Central Oklahoma University who was out for a jog in Duncan, Okla. on Friday. One of the teens told police they did it because they was bored, according to an ABCNews.com report.

The teens followed Chris Lane, 22, as he jogged, shot him in the back and left him to die on the side of a road, according to police. “They were bored and just wanted to see somebody die,” Duncan police chief Danny Ford told ABCNews.com. Police said a woman called 911 after seeing the dying man stagger across a road and collapse.

Amazingly, according to news reports, the three teens then went on Facebook bragging that they had killed a second person: “bang, two drops in two hours,” they reportedly wrote.

Chris Lane, who was in the United States on a baseball scholarship at the school in Ada, Okla. was visiting his girlfriend in Duncan, which is about 85 miles from his campus when the shooting occurred, according to this ABC News report.

Lane’s girlfriend, Sarah Harper, told the Australian Broadcasting Corp.: “He didn’t deserve any of this. It’s heartbreaking that it was such a random choice those guys made that drastically altered so many lives in the process.”

The three teens are in custody and face a court appearance Tuesday afternoon, according to news reports. Chief Ford said the district attorney is expected to file first-degree murder charges.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:10 PM   #31
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Words not used in any of these stories: black, white or hate.


I noticed the media that is reporting this story won't say the color of their skin
either while the Zimmerman incident it was front and center.

Another example of media bias.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:16 PM   #32
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I wish they'd have shot KcNative instead
KC Native and I have had more than our share of disagreements over the years, and at various times we've each called each other stupid, dumbass, ignorant, and probably much worse.

But a statement like that is really pretty low.

And the sad thing is that on this particular case, I am probably much more in agreement with you than I am with him. Stop acting like a douchebag.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #33
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I wish they'd have shot KcNative instead
That's low. You should apologize for that remark.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:19 PM   #34
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I remember being bored quite a bit at that age, never did let's go kill someone enter my mind. I guess the with each generation comes a different way of dealing with lifes little mysteries.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:50 PM   #35
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What are we trying to achieve here?

These pieces of shit shot and killed a guy for no reason, and they're being tried for the crime. Are we looking for everyone to simply acknowledge that blacks are pieces of shit...the whole lot of them? That seems like a fool's errand, but whatever.

Let me know, so I don't show up with the wrong sign at the rally.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:55 PM   #36
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KC Native and I have had more than our share of disagreements over the years, and at various times we've each called each other stupid, dumbass, ignorant, and probably much worse.

But a statement like that is really pretty low.

And the sad thing is that on this particular case, I am probably much more in agreement with you than I am with him. Stop acting like a douchebag.
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That's low. You should apologize for that remark.
That's par for the course for my fan club. Wishing death on me, being racist pieces of shit towards me, etc.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:56 PM   #37
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What are we trying to achieve here?

These pieces of shit shot and killed a guy for no reason, and they're being tried for the crime. Are we looking for everyone to simply acknowledge that blacks are pieces of shit...the whole lot of them? That seems like a fool's errand, but whatever.

Let me know, so I don't show up with the wrong sign at the rally.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:03 PM   #38
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What are we trying to achieve here?

These pieces of shit shot and killed a guy for no reason, and they're being tried for the crime. Are we looking for everyone to simply acknowledge that blacks are pieces of shit...the whole lot of them? That seems like a fool's errand, but whatever.

Let me know, so I don't show up with the wrong sign at the rally.
When I read the article, I didn't even know they were black. Shows you how much race affects my life.......
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:10 PM   #39
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That's par for the course for my fan club. Wishing death on me, being racist pieces of shit towards me, etc.
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised at the treatment you get with being so personable and cordial with the folks you debate with.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:11 PM   #40
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When I read the article, I didn't even know they were black. Shows you how much race affects my life.......
If we're using this as an example of the media omitting racial details of minority violence against whites while highlighting race when the roles are reversed, we might be onto something.

If we're turning this into "black guys doing what they do"... I'm going to need some convincing. Do we have anyone smart that could try to sway me? Prison Bitch has the heart, but he's just so ****ing stupid that I can't get excited about yelling "rabble rabble" when he's the one with the bullhorn.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:14 PM   #41
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What are we trying to achieve here?

These pieces of shit shot and killed a guy for no reason, and they're being tried for the crime. Are we looking for everyone to simply acknowledge that blacks are pieces of shit...the whole lot of them? That seems like a fool's errand, but whatever.

Let me know, so I don't show up with the wrong sign at the rally.
That's what you're getting from most of the posts here? I see a lot of remarks and frustration about the inequity in the treatment of such events by the media and such...I missed the "blacks are all crap" posts.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:20 PM   #42
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If we're using this as an example of the media omitting racial details of minority violence against whites while highlighting race when the roles are reversed, we might be onto something.

If we're turning this into "black guys doing what they do"... I'm going to need some convincing. Do we have anyone smart that could try to sway me? Prison Bitch has the heart, but he's just so ****ing stupid that I can't get excited about yelling "rabble rabble" when he's the one with the bullhorn.
I think the first part is often true. It seems to sell better when it's white on black for whatever reason. Or they're just more scared to point out race when its black against white.
It does seem to me that the only time you hear it framed as a person of one race committing a crime against a person of another it's a case of white against black.
Of course many crimes of white against black crime go virtually unreported too, so I think a lot of it depends on the nature of the crime, the actual people involved, what else is going on in the news cycle, etc. It's sort of random when it comes to what grabs the attention of the public.

Even in this case if they hadn't made the comment about boredom it probably wouldn't even rate nationwide.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:22 PM   #43
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised at the treatment you get with being so personable and cordial with the folks you debate with.
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FBI: BLACKS 40 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ASSAULT WHITES THAN THE REVERSE

In the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP are calling on the black community to rise up in national protest.

Yet they know — and Barack Obama, whose silence speaks volumes, knows — nothing is going to happen.

“Stand-Your-Ground” laws in Florida and other states are not going to be repealed. George Zimmerman is not going to be prosecuted for a federal “hate crime” in the death of Trayvon Martin.

The result of all this ginned-up rage that has produced vandalism and violence is simply going to be an ever-deepening racial divide.

Consider the matter of crime and fear of crime.

From listening to cable channels and hearing Holder, Sharpton, Jealous and others, one would think the great threat to black children today emanates from white vigilantes and white cops.

Hence, every black father must have a “conversation” with his son, warning him not to resist or run if pulled over or hassled by a cop.

Make the wrong move, son, and you may be dead is the implication.

But is this the reality in Black America?

When Holder delivered his 2009 “nation-of-cowards” speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.

And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.

Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?

Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: “The God’s honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics.”

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as “a black Hispanic” Yet he may be closer to the ‘hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie — in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It’s never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we’ve got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?

What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for “Suicide of a Superpower,” this writer concluded: “An analysis of ‘single offender victimization figures’ from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study.”

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.


If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides — in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 — with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites — or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.

Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America’s problem?

Obama seems not to think so. The Rev. Sharpton notwithstanding, he is touting Ray Kelly as a possible chief of homeland security.
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That's what you're getting from most of the posts here? I see a lot of remarks and frustration about the inequity in the treatment of such events by the media and such...I missed the "blacks are all crap" posts.
Most? No

I'm getting that vibe from some, though.


I've said before that I really don't care about racism much. It doesn't offend me. It doesn't shock me. It exists in every direction, and there is generally some truth to stereotypes.

I also understand that there is a difference between being racist/bigoted and simply being sick and tired of the double standards (in this case, leaving out the fact that the victim is white and the accused are black qualifies). That said, it's important to be extremely clear about why a topic is noteworthy lest you open yourself up to being characterized as some racist Republican just picking on minorities.

This is how a story about three blacks murdering a random white guy turns into a discussion about how whites are racist. I've seen this movie too many times before to be surprised at how it ends.
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