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Old 08-21-2013, 09:58 AM  
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150 Years Ago Today....

Quantrill burned Lawrence.

Some folks don't have a clue about WHY 400 men from Missouri would agree to ride together to Lawrence, in 1863, on a suicide mission. It was NOT about slavery. Rather, it was "payback" for the countless times the Kansas Redlegs (and federal soldiers) rode into Missouri, stealing (jayhawking), burning and killing Missourians.

The final-straw was the killing of the young women locked-up in the Kansas City house (jail). That cowardly act of violence caused the Missouri men to willingly forfeit their lives to pay back every man (and boy) living in Lawrence, KS with their own lives. It was out-of-control.

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Old 08-21-2013, 12:16 PM   #16
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Unless you count the 14 professional sports championships.

It's nice to have major cities.
The Chiefs and Royals are shared by both sides of the state line, I'm sure the teams will let you know the season ticket breakdown by location.


Also Missouri claims Kansas teams as their own too. Facebook analytics reported KU was the most popular college basketball team on almost 90% of Missouri counties. Hilarious but true.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:18 PM   #17
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The Chiefs and Royals are shared by both sides of the state line, I'm sure the teams will let you know the season ticket breakdown by location.


Also Missouri claims Kansas teams as their own too. Facebook analytics reported KU was the most popular college basketball team on almost 90% of Missouri counties. Hilarious but true.
Geography. Not taught in Kansas since.... well, forever, apparently.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:24 PM   #18
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Geography. Not taught in Kansas since.... well, forever, apparently.
I think he's saying fanbase, not stadiums.

Or are you asserting that New Jersey is an NFL powerhouse?
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #19
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Actually there is a valuable lesson we can learn from Lawrence. The mayor believed in gun control. All the town's weapons were locked up in the armory. Therefore, when Quantrill rode in, the residents were completely defenseless. And the result was 183 Good Kansans-er, I mean, casualties.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:39 PM   #20
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Geography. Not taught in Kansas since.... well, forever, apparently.
I was born and raised in Missouri.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:41 PM   #21
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Thanks for the history lesson.

Talking about today in history...Today is James Burton's birthday (that one's for you stevieray).
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:33 PM   #22
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I think he's saying fanbase, not stadiums.

Or are you asserting that New Jersey is an NFL powerhouse?
Not my fault they ran out of room in New York City.
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:48 PM   #23
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I think he's saying fanbase, not stadiums.

Or are you asserting that New Jersey?
Plus the teams are direct competitors of each other, can't be a Cards and Royals fan doesn't matter what part of Missouri you live in. If you think about it nearly all KU students are Royals fans whereas only a distinct mjnority portion of MU students are.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:00 PM   #24
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Plus the teams are direct competitors of each other, can't be a Cards and Royals fan doesn't matter what part of Missouri you live in. If you think about it nearly all KU students are Royals fans whereas only a distinct mjnority portion of MU students are.
Why - because you say so? No one cares what you think, turncoat.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:06 PM   #25
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Plus the teams are direct competitors of each other, can't be a Cards and Royals fan doesn't matter what part of Missouri you live in. If you think about it nearly all KU students are Royals fans whereas only a distinct mjnority portion of MU students are.
Is this a law or something?
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:09 PM   #26
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Yeah, all those noble freedom fighters from Kansas. They weren't really stealing our shit; they were just storing it for us, until after the war.
If you'd actually read written accounts from the time period you'd realize western Missouri was basically a wasteland. There wasn't much going on except for pockets of pro-slavery hooligans. Kansas was being bolstered by anti-slavery sentiment from the North who knew it was a battle ground. Slavery lost.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:13 PM   #27
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If you'd actually read written accounts from the time period you'd realize western Missouri was basically a wasteland. There wasn't much going on except for pockets of pro-slavery hooligans. Kansas was being bolstered by anti-slavery sentiment from the North who knew it was a battle ground. Slavery lost.
And if you think all those shitbags from Kansas weren't thieves who used the "noble cause" as an excuse to rob and murder their neighbors, you really haven't read nearly enough.

If reading is a problem for you, try watching Glory. The character of Colonel Montgomery perfectly captures the essence of the true life jayhawker.
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And if you think all those shitbags from Kansas weren't thieves who used the "noble cause" as an excuse to rob and murder their neighbors, you really haven't read nearly enough.

If reading is a problem for you, try watching Glory. The character of Colonel Montgomery perfectly captures the essence of the true life jayhawker.
Movies don't form my opinion, but they may influence your fantasy. I actually had a prof that used archives from the time. Ya know, people on both sides that were there.
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Movies don't form my opinion, but they may influence your fantasy. I actually had a prof that used archives from the time. Ya know, people on both sides that were there.
That's nice. Perhaps if you'd recognize that there were true believers, opportunists and outright psychopaths on both sides, that some were good, and some were bad, but mainly they were all just caught up in the times, and stop demonizing one side and glorifying the other, you wouldn't come off as such a mindless mouth-breathing dumbass.

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