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Old 08-21-2013, 06:10 PM  
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United States is raising a nation of savages

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United States is raising a nation of savages

By Todd Starnes Published August 21, 2013 FoxNews.com



Christopher Lane was gunned down in cold blood – shot in the back as he jogged alongside a road in Duncan, Okla. His alleged attackers were teenagers who told police they were bored and killed the college athlete for “the fun of it.”

The 22-year-old was attending school at East Central University – an Australian native who played baseball.

Good Samaritans saw the shooting and immediately rushed to offer aid. One person called 911. Another tried to administer CPR. But it was too late. The young athlete with a promising future lingered for several minutes – gasping for air. And then he died – on a lonely stretch of an Oklahoma roadway.

Police Chief Dan Ford said they found a chilling message on one of the alleged killer’s Facebook pages: “Bang. Two drops in two hours.”
“I think they were on a killing spree,” Ford told Australian Associated Press. “We would have had more bodies that night if we didn’t get them.”
In other words – the teenage boys were hunting humans.

In Northwest Indiana, a 17-year-old boy is accused of hunting and killing three kittens with a bow and arrow. Police told CBS News in Chicago the teenager skewered the kittens on an arrow.

Investigator Michelle Dvorscak told the television station the boy posted the photographs on Facebook.

“He did confess,” she said. “He said he was bored out of his mind the week before school started and decided to hunt some kittens.”

In Brunswick, Ga. two teenagers are accused of shooting a young mother and murdering her 13-month-old child. Sherry West was taking her baby out for a stroll when the boys demanded she give them cash.

“A boy approached me and told me he wanted my money, and I told him I didn’t have any money,” the woman told reporters. “And he said, ‘Give me your money or I’m going to kill you and I’m going to shoot your baby and kill your baby.”

She pleaded with them to spare her child – but one of the boys took a gun and shot the 13-month-old between the eyes.

We live in a nation that celebrates and glorifies violence. The proof is in our movies, our music, and our athletic pastimes.

“Violence has become the new pornography of our culture,” noted author Robert Jeffress tells me. “One cause of the violence is the unprecedented and explicit violence in video games and cable television. It’s desensitized teenagers to the idea of taking a human life.”

Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, Tex., said parents bear responsibility for raising a generation of thugs roaming the streets in search of their prey.

“Parents have absolutely failed in their most basic, fundamental responsibility as parents,” he said. “And that is to instill God’s moral law in the hearts of their children.”

The Good Book indeed says the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

“As long as you continue to tell teenagers they are nothing but a biological accident, we shouldn’t expect them to act in accordance with a Creator-God who has basic laws concerning life and death,” Pastor Jeffress tells me.

It’s true that American culture has turned its back on God. As a result, we’ve lost our moral compass – replacing the moral absolutes of the Almighty with the moral whims of an all-knowing federal government.

Right is now wrong and wrong is now right. And under the leadership of President Obama criminals have become victims and their prey have become afterthoughts – ingredients for the surge in teenage violence.

“Our culture continues to deny or marginalize the existence of God,” Jeffress tells me. “We shouldn’t be surprised that teenagers would ignore the most basic laws of God – like thou shall not kill.”

And as the stench of our rotting culture sweeps across the nation, I’ve come to the conclusion that we have reached a moment in history when the make-believe world of violence no longer satisfies our bloodlust.

The United States is now reaping what it has sown – for raising a nation of savages.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:30 PM   #106
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I have a suggestion on what to do with all of them, but it's not very nice.
Does it involve a wood chipper? Cause I could be fine with that.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:32 PM   #107
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Does it involve a wood chipper? Cause I could be fine with that.
I was thinking of just feeding them to Wu's pigs, but we could do both.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:49 PM   #108
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It's not video games or T.V that's the problem. It's this perpetual "me against the world", "Poor vs White", "I'm the victim" mentality that's troubling these kids.

We DO live a society right now where the poor glorify the gang mentality and they convince themselves that they are the victim in this country and that they are destined to murder or die because success is reserved for the white and wealthy.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:50 PM   #109
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Bring your guns.
Shit, son. If I merely gathered my friends from work, town and fellow parents we could form a hell of a platoon.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:51 PM   #110
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I live in a small town and I don’t have any numbers to back this up but I’m pretty sure the vast majority of crime around here is relatable back to meth/meth heads.
This times eleventy billion.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:52 PM   #111
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I was thinking of just feeding them to Wu's pigs, but we could do both.
Probably need to do both, doubt Wu’s pigs could handle the workload.
Of course they could eat a couple of meth-heads and be up for days.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:52 PM   #112
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Plenty of artforms aren't necessarily beneficial to society, but that doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose. Violent lyrics and themes aren't exclusive to hip-hop, and it's not like there aren't any positive rappers. Even mainstream rap - even though it sucks nowadays - has largely shifted away from the "gangsta" image at the moment.
When I was a Paramount, we had an executive retreat in Palm Springs. One of our A&R people played a song from a new act she had signed. It was a rap group called D12 which featured the following lyrics:


You know why my hands are so numb? (No)
Cause my grandmother sucked my dick and I didn't cum (oh)
Smacked this whore for talking crap (bitch)
So what if she's handicapped, the bitch said Bizarre couldn't rap
I ****ing hate you; I'll take your drawers down and rape you



The Manager of Finance gave his notice the following Monday and said he could not be associated with a company that promoted such filth.

Again, Gangsta Rap won't be banned but if people stopped listening to it, it would go away. I don't understand how anyone could justify lyrics such as these as benefiting society in any way or serving any type of service.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:58 PM   #113
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Usually it doesn't matter.

If you're there and participating in any way, you're usually charged almost the same as the person pulling the trigger or robbing the quicktrip or stealing the xyz.
There needs to be an underlying felony for felony murder. Present at a murder isn't sufficient.

Facts are unknown at present AFAICT, but there may be enough of their prior discussion for a savvy prosecutor to fashion a felony conspiracy predicate.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:03 PM   #114
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Music doesn't make anybody do anything. The reason stories like this make headlines is the fact that they are rare in our society. People who lived more then 100 years ago were much more desensitized to violence and death since it was much more common then it is today. That is a good thing.

Also, I am sure that Dane doesn't like The Misfits, Mercyful Fate, Venom, and King Diamond. Heck, shocking lyrics are nothing new. Violence being portrayed against woman wasn't new either, it was a part of Alice Cooper's stage show.
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Also, I am sure that Dane doesn't like The Misfits, Mercyful Fate, Venom, and King Diamond. Heck, shocking lyrics are nothing new. Violence being portrayed against woman wasn't new either, it was a part of Alice Cooper's stage show.
You missed my point, entirely. My statement wasn't based on whether or not I "like" a form of music, it's whether or not some musical genres can have a negative influence on people.
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When I was a Paramount, we had an executive retreat in Palm Springs. One of our A&R people played a song from a new act she had signed. It was a rap group called D12 which featured the following lyrics:


You know why my hands are so numb? (No)
Cause my grandmother sucked my dick and I didn't cum (oh)
Smacked this whore for talking crap (bitch)
So what if she's handicapped, the bitch said Bizarre couldn't rap
I ****ing hate you; I'll take your drawers down and rape you



The Manager of Finance gave his notice the following Monday and said he could not be associated with a company that promoted such filth.

Again, Gangsta Rap won't be banned but if people stopped listening to it, it would go away. I don't understand how anyone could justify lyrics such as these as benefiting society in any way or serving any type of service.
Have that Disc, Eminem raps on that song [not that verse].

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You missed my point, entirely. My statement wasn't based on whether or not I "like" a form of music, it's whether or not some musical genres can have a negative influence on people.
Crazy people will do crazy things. Violent people will do violent things. Something might influence the way they act out on their violence or crazy but it is not the cause.

It could be gangster rap, it could be The Catcher in the Rye, it could be the Communist Manifesto, it could be the Beatles, it could be anything. Trying to scapegoat something else removes the blame from the person committing the acts, and that is wrong.
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Crazy people will do crazy things. Violent people will do violent things. Something might influence the way they act out on their violence or crazy but it is not the cause.

It could be gangster rap, it could be The Catcher in the Rye, it could be the Communist Manifesto, it could be the Beatles, it could be anything. Trying to scapegoat something else removes the blame from the person committing the acts, and that is wrong.
I'd recommend that you go back and read my original comments and not the sub-comments that were off-topic.
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Have that Disc, Eminem raps on that song [not that verse].
That's why we signed them. It was a favor to Eminem, who was also signed to our company.
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Have that Disc, Eminem raps on that song [not that verse].
It was interesting to be in a room with men and women in their 60's and 70's at the time react to "Grandma sucked my dick".
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