Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-21-2013, 06:10 PM  
Frazod Frazod is offline
Banned
 
Frazod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: my own personal pig hell
Casino cash: $1001187
United States is raising a nation of savages

Fox's title, not mine. So blow me.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...ation-savages/

United States is raising a nation of savages

By Todd Starnes Published August 21, 2013 FoxNews.com



Christopher Lane was gunned down in cold blood – shot in the back as he jogged alongside a road in Duncan, Okla. His alleged attackers were teenagers who told police they were bored and killed the college athlete for “the fun of it.”

The 22-year-old was attending school at East Central University – an Australian native who played baseball.

Good Samaritans saw the shooting and immediately rushed to offer aid. One person called 911. Another tried to administer CPR. But it was too late. The young athlete with a promising future lingered for several minutes – gasping for air. And then he died – on a lonely stretch of an Oklahoma roadway.

Police Chief Dan Ford said they found a chilling message on one of the alleged killer’s Facebook pages: “Bang. Two drops in two hours.”
“I think they were on a killing spree,” Ford told Australian Associated Press. “We would have had more bodies that night if we didn’t get them.”
In other words – the teenage boys were hunting humans.

In Northwest Indiana, a 17-year-old boy is accused of hunting and killing three kittens with a bow and arrow. Police told CBS News in Chicago the teenager skewered the kittens on an arrow.

Investigator Michelle Dvorscak told the television station the boy posted the photographs on Facebook.

“He did confess,” she said. “He said he was bored out of his mind the week before school started and decided to hunt some kittens.”

In Brunswick, Ga. two teenagers are accused of shooting a young mother and murdering her 13-month-old child. Sherry West was taking her baby out for a stroll when the boys demanded she give them cash.

“A boy approached me and told me he wanted my money, and I told him I didn’t have any money,” the woman told reporters. “And he said, ‘Give me your money or I’m going to kill you and I’m going to shoot your baby and kill your baby.”

She pleaded with them to spare her child – but one of the boys took a gun and shot the 13-month-old between the eyes.

We live in a nation that celebrates and glorifies violence. The proof is in our movies, our music, and our athletic pastimes.

“Violence has become the new pornography of our culture,” noted author Robert Jeffress tells me. “One cause of the violence is the unprecedented and explicit violence in video games and cable television. It’s desensitized teenagers to the idea of taking a human life.”

Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, Tex., said parents bear responsibility for raising a generation of thugs roaming the streets in search of their prey.

“Parents have absolutely failed in their most basic, fundamental responsibility as parents,” he said. “And that is to instill God’s moral law in the hearts of their children.”

The Good Book indeed says the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

“As long as you continue to tell teenagers they are nothing but a biological accident, we shouldn’t expect them to act in accordance with a Creator-God who has basic laws concerning life and death,” Pastor Jeffress tells me.

It’s true that American culture has turned its back on God. As a result, we’ve lost our moral compass – replacing the moral absolutes of the Almighty with the moral whims of an all-knowing federal government.

Right is now wrong and wrong is now right. And under the leadership of President Obama criminals have become victims and their prey have become afterthoughts – ingredients for the surge in teenage violence.

“Our culture continues to deny or marginalize the existence of God,” Jeffress tells me. “We shouldn’t be surprised that teenagers would ignore the most basic laws of God – like thou shall not kill.”

And as the stench of our rotting culture sweeps across the nation, I’ve come to the conclusion that we have reached a moment in history when the make-believe world of violence no longer satisfies our bloodlust.

The United States is now reaping what it has sown – for raising a nation of savages.
Posts: 91,143
Frazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < CasselFrazod < Cassel
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:21 PM   #121
GloucesterChief GloucesterChief is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Casino cash: $12023
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
I'd recommend that you go back and read my original comments and not the sub-comments that were off-topic.
That some forms of art harm society? That is a silly idea. Art isn't meant to benefit society, art is expression of an artists view of the world and a good that the artist hopes to benefit from commercially. Society has no bearing on the validity of the art. Only the artist and the consumer can make that determination on whether that art is valid to them.

If we determined what goods could be produced by how harmful or not they are to society. Life would be rather dull and most of the people here probably wouldn't be employed.

This also brings up the question of who determines whether an art form is detrimental or not?
Posts: 836
GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.GloucesterChief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:22 PM   #122
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142291
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
It was interesting to be in a room with men and women in their 60's and 70's at the time react to "Grandma sucked my dick".
I guess their parents did a shitty job of raising them, I wouldn't want to deal with shit like that.
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 24,165
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:22 PM   #123
Brock Brock is offline
Do it.
 
Brock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Larryville
Casino cash: $160873
Look at what acdc did to richard ramirez
Posts: 42,720
Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:25 PM   #124
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Band
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The 'Wood
Casino cash: $10138218
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief View Post
That some forms of art harm society? That is a silly idea. Art isn't meant to benefit society, art is expression of an artists view of the world and a good that the artist hopes to benefit from commercially. Society has no bearing on the validity of the art. Only the artist and the consumer can make that determination on whether that art is valid to them.

If we determined what goods could be produced by how harmful or not they are to society. Life would be rather dull and most of the people here probably wouldn't be employed.

This also brings up the question of who determines whether an art form is detrimental or not?
Again, you're misconstruing what I said. And I think you're a little off base if you don't believe that Gangsta Rap doesn't glamorize the life of a "gangsta".
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER View Post
Geno > Cam
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) View Post
Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
Posts: 48,886
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:26 PM   #125
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Band
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The 'Wood
Casino cash: $10138218
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
I guess their parents did a shitty job of raising them, I wouldn't want to deal with shit like that.
It was weird to hear that particular song in that particular context, that's for sure. And while I saw no reason to quit because of the "offensive" lyrics, I could sure understand someone wanting to do so, especially since he was an accountant and could work elsewhere.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER View Post
Geno > Cam
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) View Post
Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
Posts: 48,886
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:34 PM   #126
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Band
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The 'Wood
Casino cash: $10138218
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief View Post
That some forms of art harm society?
This is what I stated:

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Todd Starnes is a ****ing idiot.

Video games don't glorify killing. Movies and TV don't glorify killing.

Rap music is questionable.
That in no way relates to your comments.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER View Post
Geno > Cam
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) View Post
Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
Posts: 48,886
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:49 PM   #127
Hog Farmer Hog Farmer is offline
Good Donkey = Dead Donkey
 
Hog Farmer's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion
Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $5099676
And in Iraq 69 people just died from a bored suicide bomber.

Our nation rocks.
Posts: 14,451
Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Hog Farmer 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 06:58 PM   #128
ClevelandBronco ClevelandBronco is offline
Banned
 
ClevelandBronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Casino cash: $157243
Good commentary piece in Time magazine. It would seem that a remarkably large fraction of young African American men and boys are a shade unruly.

http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/vie...-lanes-murder/

"Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men."
Posts: 20,020
ClevelandBronco has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 07:09 PM   #129
Fairplay Fairplay is offline
MVP
 
Fairplay's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: state of mind
Casino cash: $1005026938
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco View Post
Good commentary piece in Time magazine. It would seem that a remarkably large fraction of young African American men and boys are a shade unruly.

"Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men."




Just a wee bit.
Posts: 16,848
Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Fairplay has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 08:12 PM   #130
listopencil listopencil is online now
sic semper tyrannis
 
listopencil's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In Partibus Infidelium
Casino cash: $1121838
Let me give a little shout out to Chiefshrink:



I believe that at any level of society, the key to a happier and more successful world is the growth of compassion. We do not need to become religious, nor do we need to believe in an idealogy. All that is necessary is for each of us to develop our good human qualities.

-Dalai Lama
__________________
"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind I'd still be in prison."


Posts: 26,936
listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 10:18 PM   #131
KC native KC native is offline
a toda madre o un desmadre
 
KC native's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Casino cash: $1058188
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
When I was a Paramount, we had an executive retreat in Palm Springs. One of our A&R people played a song from a new act she had signed. It was a rap group called D12 which featured the following lyrics:


You know why my hands are so numb? (No)
Cause my grandmother sucked my dick and I didn't cum (oh)
Smacked this whore for talking crap (bitch)
So what if she's handicapped, the bitch said Bizarre couldn't rap
I ****ing hate you; I'll take your drawers down and rape you



The Manager of Finance gave his notice the following Monday and said he could not be associated with a company that promoted such filth.

Again, Gangsta Rap won't be banned but if people stopped listening to it, it would go away. I don't understand how anyone could justify lyrics such as these as benefiting society in any way or serving any type of service.
Bizarre isn't gangsta rap. He is shock rap. Lyrics like that are designed to provoke a reaction from people who take him seriously.

He has other lyrics about ****ing his pit bull when he's snortin and it costing a fortune to it an abortion (paraphrased).
__________________
The diameter of your knowledge is the circumference of your actions. Ras Kass

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowanian View Post
I'm just a little pussy from Iowa
Posts: 15,105
KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.KC native Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2013, 12:39 AM   #132
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Band
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The 'Wood
Casino cash: $10138218
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC native View Post
Bizarre isn't gangsta rap. He is shock rap. Lyrics like that are designed to provoke a reaction from people who take him seriously.
Who doesn't take music seriously for the first time?

I can remember the first time I heard Hendrix, Cream, Frampton, Steve Miller, Trapeze, Deep Purple, Joe Walsh, The Eagles, Yes, Rush and on and on and on and on.

Were they phony or trying to "shock"? Was there a "hidden" message or agenda that I was supposed to figure out as an 8 year old kid?

Say what you want but IMO, lyrics and releases like this only glamorize "Gangsta" life.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER View Post
Geno > Cam
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) View Post
Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
Posts: 48,886
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2013, 02:46 AM   #133
CrazyPhuD CrazyPhuD is offline
Meow
 
CrazyPhuD's Avatar
 
Pandemic Version 2 Champion Simon Champion
Join Date: Jun 2005
Casino cash: $1615695
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
When I was a Paramount, we had an executive retreat in Palm Springs. One of our A&R people played a song from a new act she had signed. It was a rap group called D12 which featured the following lyrics:


You know why my hands are so numb? (No)
Cause my grandmother sucked my dick and I didn't cum (oh)
Smacked this whore for talking crap (bitch)
So what if she's handicapped, the bitch said Bizarre couldn't rap
I ****ing hate you; I'll take your drawers down and rape you



The Manager of Finance gave his notice the following Monday and said he could not be associated with a company that promoted such filth.

Again, Gangsta Rap won't be banned but if people stopped listening to it, it would go away. I don't understand how anyone could justify lyrics such as these as benefiting society in any way or serving any type of service.
Rap will be around for a LONG time because it has a beat and it's so god awful slow it's for people that can't dance. Hell the average person doesn't have to be even moderately coordinated to be able to dance to it. That's a huge sell for the mainstream.

I'm no fan of rap personally, it just doesn't speak to me. But I respect the talent and the voice of the old school gangster rap(ala Tupac, Ice-T, Dr Dre, NWA, etc). While harsh it's also real and those guys had talent. Compared to the poetry they generated back then, rap these days feels like paint by numbers.
__________________
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t*rd by the clean end"
Posts: 8,013
CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.CrazyPhuD threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2013, 07:42 AM   #134
stevieray stevieray is offline
Ring of Fire
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $85036238
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC native View Post
Well that's not very holier than thou christian-y.
you don't believe in "fairy" tales, just fairies tails.
Posts: 36,118
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2013, 07:52 AM   #135
2bikemike 2bikemike is offline
Born to Ride
 
2bikemike's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: El Cajon Calif.
Casino cash: $10051415
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD View Post
Rap will be around for a LONG time because it has a beat and it's so god awful slow it's for people that can't dance. Hell the average person doesn't have to be even moderately coordinated to be able to dance to it. That's a huge sell for the mainstream.

.
Is that why I can't dance? Grew up listening to Rock. So I was a poor white kid with no rhythm! Still couldn't find the beat if you were drumming it on my head.
Posts: 13,453
2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli2bikemike 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.