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Old 08-21-2013, 07:17 PM  
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Emergency Meeting of UN Sec Council as Syria kills @ 1000 incl children with Sarin

UN has 'strong concern' over reports of hundreds killed in Syria chemicals weapons attacks

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By Richard Engel, Alastair Jamieson and Ghazi Balkiz, NBC News
The U.N. Security Council said Wednesday it was necessary to clarify reports from Syria's opposition that hundreds of civilians – including many women and children – have been killed in chemical weapons attacks.
The council, however, stopped short of demanding a probe by U.N. investigators in Syria -- although said it welcomed U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon's calls for one.
"There is a strong concern among council members about the allegations and a general sense that there must be clarity on what happened and the situation must be followed closely," Argentina's U.N. ambassador, Maria Cristina Perceval said following the emergency meeting.


Activists and rebel fighters accused Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces of firing chemical-tipped weapons into rebel-held areas near the capital, Damascus, in the early hours.
The Obama administration "strongly condemned" the reported use of the weapons which, if confirmed, would be by far the worst known use of poison gas during the country’s deadly civil war.

The White House called for Assad to allow an immediate and transparent U.N. investigation of the incident.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Wednesday that a U.N. team is on the ground in Syria to conduct the investigation and acknowledged that the United States does not have independent confirmation that chemical weapons were used.

“We are hopeful that the Assad regime will follow through on what they have claimed previously, that they are interested in a credible investigation that gets to the bottom of reports that chemical weapons have been used,” Earnest said.

Videos apparently showing the graphic and disturbing aftermath of the alleged attacks on the rebel-held eastern Damascus suburb of Ghouta were posted to social media but could not be independently verified. The clips showed children choking and vomiting, while adults writhed in agony.
State television denied the opposition claims, which it said were disseminated deliberately to distract United Nations chemical weapons experts who arrived in the country on Monday.

Musab abu Qutada, a spokesman for the local military council of the Free Syria Army, who is in the area near where the attacks took place, said the death toll had reached more than 1,200. NBC News could not verify the claim.
Several towns and villages to the east and north of the capital were attacked by surface-to-surface missiles beginning around 2 a.m. Wednesday (7 p.m. Tuesday ET), the rebel spokesman said.

Syrian activists inspect the bodies of people they say were killed by nerve gas in the Ghouta region near Damascus on Wednesday.

“The deceased and the wounded are in field hospitals,” he said in a Skype interview. “We have about 1,228 victims. We are in need of medicine. We are in need of medical staff.”
The “chemical bombardment” was so strong that doctors at the scene had also died from the effects of the gas, he said.
“There were some symptoms like numbing of the body, constricted pupils of the eye, foam coming out of the mouth, paleness of faces, shortness of breath," he said.
“The areas that were targeted were civilian areas, they are not military areas. They targeted women and children to apply pressure on the Free Syrian Army.”

The gas was heavy and sunk into basements, witnesses told NBC News. Some people lit tires on fire, hoping the smoke from the burning tires would offset the gas. The black smoke, however, only created more chaos and panic.
A doctor said some victims reported smelling a faint odor of insecticide at the time of the rocket attacks. Most of the victims were sleeping when the attacks took place.

The first rocket assaults on the eastern villages lasted roughly an hour; then, villages to the north began to be attacked in the same way -- surface-to-surface rockets that exploded to release a poison gas.

Conflicting death tolls from different sources could not immediately be reconciled by NBC News. Witness accounts are impossible to verify because Syria does not allow journalists to operate freely inside its borders.
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The opposition Local Coordination Committees in Syria put the death toll at more than 755, saying several areas had been hit by “shelling with poisonous gases.”

It said the areas hit included Ein Tarma and Zamalka in eastern Ghouta and Mouadamieh in western Ghouta.

Susan Ahmad, who lives just over one mile from the areas, described a smell in the air and reported having burning, red eyes and dizziness after the attacks.


“There is a very strange smell and it’s a very ugly one,” she told NBC News’ U.K. partner ITV News. “It’s nasty. You feel like there is something wrong in the air."

She added: “The death toll is likely to be higher and higher because don’t have enough [medicine] to save lives.”

Bayan Baker, a nurse at a field hospital in Douma, told Reuters that the death toll from the attack, collated from medical centers in the region, was 213.

"Many of the casualties are women and children. They arrived with their pupils dilated, cold limbs and foam in their mouths. The doctors say these are typical symptoms of nerve gas victims," she said.

NBC News' Charlene Gubash, Ammar Cheikhomar and Becky Bratu, ITV News' Fadah Jassem and Juliet Bremner, and Reuters contributed to this report.


WARNING IMAGES ARE GRAPHIC OF CHILDREN DYING/DEAD



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Old 08-21-2013, 08:13 PM   #16
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President Barack Obama warned the Syrian government that using chemical weapons would cross a "red line".


The line has been crossed now what Barry?
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:20 PM   #17
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why would assad do something like this when his forces have been pushing out rebels all over the country? Why would the assad government consent to such an attack when UN investigators are currently in Damascus?
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:20 PM   #18
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President Barack Obama warned the Syrian government that using chemical weapons would cross a "red line".


The line has been crossed now what Barry?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:11 PM   #19
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That's all the UN can do it be "concerned." They don't have crap in terms of actual military power. It needs to be dissolved.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:22 PM   #20
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Syrians contributed, housed, financed, transported and participated in many of the attrocities in Iraq, the Sunni beheading sprees and attacks that killed a lot of Americans.

**** Syria. **** Egypt.

The "World" made it pretty clear that they wanted America to stay out of other nations affairs. Now it's time to test their stomach and sit back and let shit sort itself out.

Maybe they'll learn to be careful what they wish for.

The only time American troops should be put in harms way is for the defense or benefit of Americans...and our friends. Neither side on the Syrian, Libyan, Palestinian, or really Egyptians are friends.

**** them all.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:25 PM   #21
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Why would Assad gas his own people within hours of allowing inspectors into the country...?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:45 PM   #22
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Why would Assad gas his own people within hours of allowing inspectors into the country...?
The fact that this is a legit question is reason enough to stay out of it. We don't know who the good guys are. We don't even know if there ARE any good guys.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:04 PM   #23
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Why would Assad gas his own people within hours of allowing inspectors into the country...?
Well, who else would have done it?
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:29 PM   #24
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I'm not very willing to put stock in report by Syrian rebels who have committed their own atrocities and who have been found blaming some of them on the Assad regime. Plus the timing of this is fishy. Why would the Syrian army do this after months of negotiations to get chemical weapons inspectors into the country?

Already we can see Cochise willing to believe anything about Syria. Smells like Iraq. But don't you know that Syria's Christian back Assad?
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:31 PM   #25
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Why would Assad gas his own people within hours of allowing inspectors into the country...?
You're right. Plus these rebels have committed their own atrocities too. Then blamed it on the Assad regime, who happens to have the support of the middle class and business owners.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:59 AM   #26
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Sitting on our hands and musing about various conspiracies really isnt any better than what Obama is doing.

The attack and jts effects appear legitimate. Who is behind it is not absolutely certain, but not impossible to discover either.

Whether and how the Syrian government allows the UN inspectors access to the site of the tragedy may tell us a lot.

And whether it was Assad, his lieutenant, or the rebels, it is incumbent on us to hold the perpetrators accountable.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:02 AM   #27
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:26 AM   #28
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Not our war, it's disgusting (if actually true which I have my doubts) but we need to steer clear. I've seen the same type of claims from both sides, I repeat this is NOT Our war.
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Sitting on our hands and musing about various conspiracies really isnt any better than what Obama is doing.

The attack and jts effects appear legitimate. Who is behind it is not absolutely certain, but not impossible to discover either.

Whether and how the Syrian government allows the UN inspectors access to the site of the tragedy may tell us a lot.

And whether it was Assad, his lieutenant, or the rebels, it is incumbent on us to hold the perpetrators accountable.
Who is "us" in this case?
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IMO, this wouldn't be happening if the US didn't get weak knees over Iraq and then compound the problem by electing a President that reflected that attitude.

Crazy people all over that region have grown emboldened.
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