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Emergency Meeting of UN Sec Council as Syria kills @ 1000 incl children with Sarin

UN has 'strong concern' over reports of hundreds killed in Syria chemicals weapons attacks

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By Richard Engel, Alastair Jamieson and Ghazi Balkiz, NBC News
The U.N. Security Council said Wednesday it was necessary to clarify reports from Syria's opposition that hundreds of civilians – including many women and children – have been killed in chemical weapons attacks.
The council, however, stopped short of demanding a probe by U.N. investigators in Syria -- although said it welcomed U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon's calls for one.
"There is a strong concern among council members about the allegations and a general sense that there must be clarity on what happened and the situation must be followed closely," Argentina's U.N. ambassador, Maria Cristina Perceval said following the emergency meeting.


Activists and rebel fighters accused Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces of firing chemical-tipped weapons into rebel-held areas near the capital, Damascus, in the early hours.
The Obama administration "strongly condemned" the reported use of the weapons which, if confirmed, would be by far the worst known use of poison gas during the country’s deadly civil war.

The White House called for Assad to allow an immediate and transparent U.N. investigation of the incident.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Wednesday that a U.N. team is on the ground in Syria to conduct the investigation and acknowledged that the United States does not have independent confirmation that chemical weapons were used.

“We are hopeful that the Assad regime will follow through on what they have claimed previously, that they are interested in a credible investigation that gets to the bottom of reports that chemical weapons have been used,” Earnest said.

Videos apparently showing the graphic and disturbing aftermath of the alleged attacks on the rebel-held eastern Damascus suburb of Ghouta were posted to social media but could not be independently verified. The clips showed children choking and vomiting, while adults writhed in agony.
State television denied the opposition claims, which it said were disseminated deliberately to distract United Nations chemical weapons experts who arrived in the country on Monday.

Musab abu Qutada, a spokesman for the local military council of the Free Syria Army, who is in the area near where the attacks took place, said the death toll had reached more than 1,200. NBC News could not verify the claim.
Several towns and villages to the east and north of the capital were attacked by surface-to-surface missiles beginning around 2 a.m. Wednesday (7 p.m. Tuesday ET), the rebel spokesman said.

Syrian activists inspect the bodies of people they say were killed by nerve gas in the Ghouta region near Damascus on Wednesday.

“The deceased and the wounded are in field hospitals,” he said in a Skype interview. “We have about 1,228 victims. We are in need of medicine. We are in need of medical staff.”
The “chemical bombardment” was so strong that doctors at the scene had also died from the effects of the gas, he said.
“There were some symptoms like numbing of the body, constricted pupils of the eye, foam coming out of the mouth, paleness of faces, shortness of breath," he said.
“The areas that were targeted were civilian areas, they are not military areas. They targeted women and children to apply pressure on the Free Syrian Army.”

The gas was heavy and sunk into basements, witnesses told NBC News. Some people lit tires on fire, hoping the smoke from the burning tires would offset the gas. The black smoke, however, only created more chaos and panic.
A doctor said some victims reported smelling a faint odor of insecticide at the time of the rocket attacks. Most of the victims were sleeping when the attacks took place.

The first rocket assaults on the eastern villages lasted roughly an hour; then, villages to the north began to be attacked in the same way -- surface-to-surface rockets that exploded to release a poison gas.

Conflicting death tolls from different sources could not immediately be reconciled by NBC News. Witness accounts are impossible to verify because Syria does not allow journalists to operate freely inside its borders.
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The opposition Local Coordination Committees in Syria put the death toll at more than 755, saying several areas had been hit by “shelling with poisonous gases.”

It said the areas hit included Ein Tarma and Zamalka in eastern Ghouta and Mouadamieh in western Ghouta.

Susan Ahmad, who lives just over one mile from the areas, described a smell in the air and reported having burning, red eyes and dizziness after the attacks.


“There is a very strange smell and it’s a very ugly one,” she told NBC News’ U.K. partner ITV News. “It’s nasty. You feel like there is something wrong in the air."

She added: “The death toll is likely to be higher and higher because don’t have enough [medicine] to save lives.”

Bayan Baker, a nurse at a field hospital in Douma, told Reuters that the death toll from the attack, collated from medical centers in the region, was 213.

"Many of the casualties are women and children. They arrived with their pupils dilated, cold limbs and foam in their mouths. The doctors say these are typical symptoms of nerve gas victims," she said.

NBC News' Charlene Gubash, Ammar Cheikhomar and Becky Bratu, ITV News' Fadah Jassem and Juliet Bremner, and Reuters contributed to this report.


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Old 08-22-2013, 08:52 AM   #31
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Syrians contributed, housed, financed, transported and participated in many of the attrocities in Iraq, the Sunni beheading sprees and attacks that killed a lot of Americans.

**** Syria. **** Egypt.

The "World" made it pretty clear that they wanted America to stay out of other nations affairs. Now it's time to test their stomach and sit back and let shit sort itself out.

Maybe they'll learn to be careful what they wish for.

The only time American troops should be put in harms way is for the defense or benefit of Americans...and our friends. Neither side on the Syrian, Libyan, Palestinian, or really Egyptians are friends.

**** them all.
There isn't too much more to be said, but we absolutely must follow Ioawanian's excellent advice....not only for the reasons he listed but also the following:

ANything we do, whatever side we support will eventually lose legitimacy simply because "AMERICA" helped that side "win."

There is no winning by us stepping in and helping any longer....the 'rebels' are hard core Islamists, and have committed their own atrocities..the Assad regime was not our friend and also is a brutal fascist government. The 'people' there support Hezbollah and Hamas and jump for joy when Americans die.

We have to just let them sort it out, and hopefully by not meddling too much, some day when the people there do finally demand a democratic system, and win that fight....they will have done it THEMSELVES and their opposition can't point the finger at 'the evil west' as the ones who 'corrupted' them as to cast doubt on democracy.

I'd love to see the Arab league step in and do something.....maybe along with the UN.(the UN as an observer or broker maybe)...but I think the odds of that happening is slim.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:53 AM   #32
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Syrians contributed, housed, financed, transported and participated in many of the attrocities in Iraq, the Sunni beheading sprees and attacks that killed a lot of Americans.

**** Syria. **** Egypt.

The "World" made it pretty clear that they wanted America to stay out of other nations affairs. Now it's time to test their stomach and sit back and let shit sort itself out.

Maybe they'll learn to be careful what they wish for.

The only time American troops should be put in harms way is for the defense or benefit of Americans...and our friends. Neither side on the Syrian, Libyan, Palestinian, or really Egyptians are friends.

**** them all.
Also makes me wonder about the reports before the Iraqi war about WMD's being moved to Syria.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:57 AM   #33
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:57 AM   #34
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And whether it was Assad, his lieutenant, or the rebels, it is incumbent on us to hold the perpetrators accountable.
Its not incumbent on me.

Even if 'we' managed to find out who did this...there would always be doubt, denial, and stupid kooky conspiracy theories if we should try to do anything about it...(like do cruise missiles at Assad etc..).

At some point 'we' have to stop meddling in other nation's affairs...there is nothing to gain here by helping the rebels in a war.

I mean, sure, I have no problem trying to find out who did this...but I don't agree that it is up to the USA to hold the wrong doers accountable...in another nation's messy civil war, where neither side is our ally.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:01 AM   #35
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Also makes me wonder about the reports before the Iraqi war about WMD's being moved to Syria.
interesting point here
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:04 AM   #36
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interesting point here
So, the Bush might have been right? Hmm...
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So, the Bush might have been right? Hmm...
Which is what I posted back then. Not that he's right - that he ****ed up even worse than Liberals thought he did.

The theory: not only were WMD's there but Bush Jr. fiddle ****ed around until Saddam had the time to pass them off to even more radical nations.

We get there and there's nothing, Saddam looks "innocent," and US world view gets even worse.

Libs seem right.

Then more radical nations/groups use these 2nd hand WMDs and not only did Bush Jr. totally **** up the Iraq war but allowed more than just Iraq to develop and use them.

That doesn't make Bush right - it's a double-FAIL...
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So, the Bush might have been right? Hmm...
I for one never commented either way (regarding Bush). We actually did find some minor chemical weapons.....

But please do not act like that is the reason for the Iraq war.....come on now...
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I for one never commented either way (regarding Bush). We actually did find some minor chemical weapons.....

But please do not act like that is the reason for the Iraq war.....come on now...
Oh no, I don't think it was the only reason for the Iraq war or even the main reason. I do think it was a factor though.
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Oh no, I don't think it was the only reason for the Iraq war or even the main reason. I do think it was a factor though.
Who controlled terrorism better in Iraq: Saddam or Bush/Obama?...
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The U.S. Govt did the gassing so they'd have an excuse to go to blow up some middle easterners again. /911 nutjobs
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The U.S. Govt did the gassing so they'd have an excuse to go to blow up some middle easterners again. /911 nutjobs
I'd love to believe our government was capable of such "strategery"...
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Yes, everyone is saying that.
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