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Old 08-23-2013, 06:21 PM  
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/op...20130822&_r=1&

By ADAM FRANK

ROCHESTER — IN 1982, polls showed that 44 percent of Americans believed God had created human beings in their present form. Thirty years later, the fraction of the population who are creationists is 46 percent.

In 1989, when “climate change” had just entered the public lexicon, 63 percent of Americans understood it was a problem. Almost 25 years later, that proportion is actually a bit lower, at 58 percent.

The timeline of these polls defines my career in science. In 1982 I was an undergraduate physics major. In 1989 I was a graduate student. My dream was that, in a quarter-century, I would be a professor of astrophysics, introducing a new generation of students to the powerful yet delicate craft of scientific research.

Much of that dream has come true. Yet instead of sending my students into a world that celebrates the latest science has to offer, I am delivering them into a society ambivalent, even skeptical, about the fruits of science.

This is not a world the scientists I trained with would recognize. Many of them served on the Manhattan Project. Afterward, they helped create the technologies that drove America’s postwar prosperity. In that era of the mid-20th century, politicians were expected to support science financially but otherwise leave it alone. The disaster of Lysenkoism, in which Communist ideology distorted scientific truth and all but destroyed Russian biological science, was still a fresh memory.

The triumph of Western science led most of my professors to believe that progress was inevitable. While the bargain between science and political culture was at times challenged — the nuclear power debate of the 1970s, for example — the battles were fought using scientific evidence. Manufacturing doubt remained firmly off-limits.

Today, however, it is politically effective, and socially acceptable, to deny scientific fact. Narrowly defined, “creationism” was a minor current in American thinking for much of the 20th century. But in the years since I was a student, a well-funded effort has skillfully rebranded that ideology as “creation science” and pushed it into classrooms across the country. Though transparently unscientific, denying evolution has become a litmus test for some conservative politicians, even at the highest levels.

Meanwhile, climate deniers, taking pages from the creationists’ PR playbook, have manufactured doubt about fundamental issues in climate science that were decided scientifically decades ago. And anti-vaccine campaigners brandish a few long-discredited studies to make unproven claims about links between autism and vaccination.

The list goes on. North Carolina has banned state planners from using climate data in their projections of future sea levels. So many Oregon parents have refused vaccination that the state is revising its school entry policies. And all of this is happening in a culture that is less engaged with science and technology as intellectual pursuits than at any point I can remember.

Thus, even as our day-to-day experiences have become dependent on technological progress, many of our leaders have abandoned the postwar bargain in favor of what the scientist Michael Mann calls the “scientization of politics.”

What do I tell my students? From one end of their educational trajectory to the other, our society told these kids science was important. How confusing is it for them now, when scientists receive death threats for simply doing honest research on our planet’s climate history?

Americans always expected their children to face a brighter economic future, and we scientists expected our students to inherit a world where science was embraced by an ever-larger fraction of the population. This never implied turning science into a religion or demanding slavish acceptance of this year’s hot research trends. We face many daunting challenges as a society, and they won’t all be solved with more science and math education. But what has been lost is an understanding that science’s open-ended, evidence-based processes — rather than just its results — are essential to meeting those challenges.

My professors’ generation could respond to silliness like creationism with head-scratching bemusement. My students cannot afford that luxury. Instead they must become fierce champions of science in the marketplace of ideas.

During my undergraduate studies I was shocked at the low opinion some of my professors had of the astronomer Carl Sagan. For me his efforts to popularize science were an inspiration, but for them such “outreach” was a diversion. That view makes no sense today.

The enthusiasm and generous spirit that Mr. Sagan used to advocate for science now must inspire all of us. There are science Twitter feeds and blogs to run, citywide science festivals and high school science fairs that need input. For the civic-minded nonscientists there are school board curriculum meetings and long-term climate response plans that cry out for the participation of informed citizens. And for every parent and grandparent there is the opportunity to make a few more trips to the science museum with your children.

Behind the giant particle accelerators and space observatories, science is a way of behaving in the world. It is, simply put, a tradition. And as we know from history’s darkest moments, even the most enlightened traditions can be broken and lost. Perhaps that is the most important lesson all lifelong students of science must learn now.



Adam Frank, a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester, is the author of “About Time: Cosmology and Culture at the Twilight of the Big Bang” and a founder of NPR’s 13.7 Cosmos and Culture blog.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:44 AM   #16
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Meanwhile, climate deniers, taking pages from the creationists’ PR playbook, have manufactured doubt about fundamental issues in climate science that were decided scientifically decades ago.
Not to pick nits but decades old science sucks...
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:48 AM   #17
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Yeah, so science may not be so popular. But GAY MARRIAGE IS! And that's what is important. Teh gayz. So all is not lost among the liberals.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:41 AM   #18
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Not to pick nits but decades old science sucks...
How so?

New findings today are often refined older scientific findings.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:44 AM   #19
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The list goes on. North Carolina has banned state planners from using climate data in their projections of future sea levels.
No wonder my home state is always near the bottom of the rankings in education.

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Not to pick nits but decades old science sucks...
Yes and No. Of course with information and technology so far ahead today it would suck in comparison, but the limited resources of the time, and some of the findings are quite evolutionary.....
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:51 AM   #21
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Yeah, so science may not be so popular. But GAY MARRIAGE IS! And that's what is important. Teh gayz. So all is not lost among the liberals.
Are you saying only liberals support science?
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:56 AM   #22
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I know it is. Is that what he's complaining about?
I think he's complaining that now that science is telling people how to live their lives, it's sad that they're not as revered as when they were giving people Tang and Velcro.
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:03 PM   #23
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I think he's complaining that now that science is telling people how to live their lives, it's sad that they're not as revered as when they were giving people Tang and Velcro.


This has to be a joke. If not, .
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:40 PM   #24
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I love how "global warming" became "climate change."

Climate change is a natural process of the earth. It warms, it cools, it warms. Politicians use that to their advantage.
You think that is the reason for the change in terminology, huh?

Human-caused climate change involves more than just warming. It includes changing precipitation patterns, changing wind patterns, and more extreme weather events everywhere. The terminology "climate change" more effectively communicates the full effects of greenhouse gas emissions, and has nothing to do with bet hedging. Make no mistake, if a long term cooling trend emerges (excepting the occurrence of historically high volcanic activity, a large meteor hitting the earth or nuclear war), it is clear evidence against the predictions of the climate models. If you think "climate change" terminology has to do with bet hedging, you've been duped by the Rush Limbaugh and Fox News crowd.
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After reading that article, it should be no surprise as to why anyone doubts 'scientists'; if that dude is a respected 'scientist', we're ****ed.
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I'd like to see a list of those Manhatten Project scientists he claims to have "trained" with in the late 80's early 90's.
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I'd like to see a list of those Manhatten Project scientists he claims to have "trained" with in the late 80's early 90's.
He means those were his professors. I was in graduate school at about the same time and one of my professors served in the Wehrmacht during WWII.
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Global Warming Hoax Has Been Good to Al Gore

Though Al Gore failed as a presidential candidate, he has succeeded wildly as a con man, milking millions of dollars out of the global warming hoax:

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore left the White House seven years ago with less than $2 million in assets, including a Virginia home and the family farm in Tennessee. Now he's making enough to put $35 million in hedge funds and other private partnerships.

Gore invested the money with Capricorn Investment Group LLC, a Palo Alto, California, firm that selects the private funds for clients and invests in makers of environmentally friendly products, according to a Feb. 1 securities filing. Capricorn was founded by billionaire Jeffrey Skoll, former president of EBay Inc. and an executive producer of Gore's Oscar-winning documentary film on global warming.

It looks like Gore stands to make $millions more — or even $billions, if the media can keep the hoax propped up long enough.

Thanks to global warming hysteria, the Goracle is able to charge a preposterously greedy $175,000 speaking fee. Already his net worth is well into nine figures. Not all of his riches come from the climate change hoax; he's made a mint from his involvement with left-leaning Google and Apple, which are no doubt grateful to him for inventing the Internet. But if Gore surpasses Warren Buffett at the top of the limousine liberal list, it will be through the clever strategy of using Capricorn to invest in products that his own overblown propaganda will inspire our increasingly authoritarian government to impose.

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Global Warming Hoax Has Been Good to Al Gore

Though Al Gore failed as a presidential candidate, he has succeeded wildly as a con man, milking millions of dollars out of the global warming hoax:

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore left the White House seven years ago with less than $2 million in assets, including a Virginia home and the family farm in Tennessee. Now he's making enough to put $35 million in hedge funds and other private partnerships.

Gore invested the money with Capricorn Investment Group LLC, a Palo Alto, California, firm that selects the private funds for clients and invests in makers of environmentally friendly products, according to a Feb. 1 securities filing. Capricorn was founded by billionaire Jeffrey Skoll, former president of EBay Inc. and an executive producer of Gore's Oscar-winning documentary film on global warming.

It looks like Gore stands to make $millions more — or even $billions, if the media can keep the hoax propped up long enough.

Thanks to global warming hysteria, the Goracle is able to charge a preposterously greedy $175,000 speaking fee. Already his net worth is well into nine figures. Not all of his riches come from the climate change hoax; he's made a mint from his involvement with left-leaning Google and Apple, which are no doubt grateful to him for inventing the Internet. But if Gore surpasses Warren Buffett at the top of the limousine liberal list, it will be through the clever strategy of using Capricorn to invest in products that his own overblown propaganda will inspire our increasingly authoritarian government to impose.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/...arming_50.html
You see his claim this last week that the Hurricane Center had to develop a Class 6 Storm because of global warming?
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:51 PM   #30
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You see his claim this last week that the Hurricane Center had to develop a Class 6 Storm because of global warming?
Yeah it looks the piss stream media is doing damage control on that.

The guy is unhinged. It's like the hacked emails from the CRU in East Anglia that showed scientists manipulated climate data and suppressed critics never happened.

Moonbats are deranged liars.
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