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Old 08-27-2013, 03:36 PM  
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Blitzing the shit out of Syria is not about regime change....OK





The president is consulting with leaders of Congress and allies abroad as he weighs military options such as missile strikes against Syrian military installations.

Asked if the president is contemplating the killing of Syrian leader Bashar Assad, Mr. Carney replied, “The options that we are considering are not about regime change.”
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:50 PM   #16
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We intervene to supply faction A with heavy weaponry, food, medicine, intel, technical advice and whatnot. Faction A ascends and, due to their relative strength, becomes the dominant power within the opposition. We continue to support the opposition because the relative good guys are running the show and Assad's fall works in our favor both because Assad is an enemy himself and because of the impact it has on Iran and Hezbollah.
Keep in mind that the "bad guys" would probably be about 75% of the population....LOL


So this would just be another failed state where the USA has troops providing "technical assistance" (military training / air support / no fly zones/ missile strikes/drones), heavy weapons, etc.....to Islamic Jihadists.

Haven't we learned our lessons?

After the dust settles do you think this "dominant regime" would have get any respect by the PEOPLE it NEEDS to govern?

The USA cannot create puppet regimes any longer.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:57 PM   #17
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:58 PM   #18
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Then we have no business toying around with changing the regime in SYria. None.
Its a fair outlook i've seen you have on this lately, if we go barging in their somehow, which side actually wins?

The sunni

The shia/alawites

The kurds

The Christians who're afraid of the sunni/wahabists getting power

Its true that there doesn't seem to be a vision for who actually takes over when were done laser guiding billions of dollars... and no matter which side wins, will they ever really appreciate our efforts?

Those are all damn fair questions to which i certainly have no answers, i'm currently reading No Easy Day, and while "Mark Owens" keeps things pretty vague, it helps me define the conflicting nature of missions over there.

PS - NED is a cool book, but there is much better reading out there about war in the ME.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:01 PM   #19
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Not another war.


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Old 08-27-2013, 06:16 PM   #20
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No way should we send troops in to invade/occupy.

Let some coalition do the heavy lifting while we provide air support/missile bombardment.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:24 PM   #21
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This. Haven't we bombed enough brown people to last for awhile? ****. Sick and tired of our troops dying for a bunch of goddamn heathen foreigners that hate us no matter what. AND getting stuck paying for it.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:05 PM   #22
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Let some coalition do the heavy lifting while we provide air support/missile bombardment.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:24 PM   #23
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No, let the world work out their own problems.


Just let it be known that if a single bullet falls near American soil that we will level their ****ing country.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:38 PM   #24
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Guys guys guys....it's cool. We have plenty of money and lots of politicians kids in the military.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:37 PM   #25
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Guys guys guys....it's cool. We have plenty of money and lots of politicians kids in the military.
Those aren't the ones dying for no cause, they are in it for the money/power.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:01 AM   #26
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Those aren't the ones dying for no cause, they are in it for the money/power.
Your sarcasm meter. Broken it is.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:48 AM   #27
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Your sarcasm meter. Broken it is.
Not really just making sure it's perfectly clear if no one got it.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:55 AM   #28
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No way should we send troops in to invade/occupy.

Let some coalition do the heavy lifting while we provide air support/missile bombardment.
How about we provide nothing?
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:56 AM   #29
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Dude, if someone would run for president on the "no wars, F them" premise they'd win.
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:14 AM   #30
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Dude, if someone would run for president on the "no wars, F them" premise they'd win.
Ron Paul tried ~
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