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Old 08-30-2013, 11:50 AM  
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Congrats Obots. Now your boy has his own little no need, no benefit, no approval shootin war to call his own. Its a moral obligation to blast shit out of something in syria somewhere because somebody there is like really bad.

Cant wait to see Hillary defend this. What do you Obots think? Will she stand by her man? Or will she go off the reservation and condem this act? She cannot be neutral...

Makes you wonder if Obama is not out to sink her ship where it sits....

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Old 08-31-2013, 12:26 PM   #31
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Hold that thought until Obama sends in a few hundred thousand ground troops.
I'm only saying that Bush was called a liar for making the same damn case that Obama is making...is he a liar too? Or could it be that the Iraqi's DID move their shit to Syria? I know Obama is not going to commit troops, it would be asinine and political suicide for him to do so. But I'm talking about his REASONS for possible action...you honestly don't see any similarities here??
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:54 PM   #32
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Obama found out he was leading and no one followed. Lets give credit to his handlers. The boy was about to make a giant **** up. And it would have crushed his party in midterms. And it would have all but killed Hillarys chances.

The stopped him just in time. They found a scapegoat. And Hillary can take a breather. Assad can go back to his war. Iran can call it a win. Obama can blame Boehner. Harry reid needs to die. The Muslim Brotherhood is all but cooked. Obama can make friends with Egypt.

Now we need to create another distraction from ObamaCare and guns
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:46 PM   #33
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I'm only saying that Bush was called a liar for making the same damn case that Obama is making...is he a liar too? Or could it be that the Iraqi's DID move their shit to Syria? I know Obama is not going to commit troops, it would be asinine and political suicide for him to do so. But I'm talking about his REASONS for possible action...you honestly don't see any similarities here??
Bush was called a liar because he claimed there were WMDs and programs and there were not (patteu would count the unusable 20-year old stuff that was disposed of, but the rest of the world doesn't). Obama's claims are related to events that occurred a week ago. There IS evidence of what he is claiming.

As for Iraq moving shit to Syria--that doesn't exonerate W in the least--it makes his actions worse. Anyway, there's no evidence of that.
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:54 PM   #34
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Bush was called a liar because he claimed there were WMDs and programs and there were not (patteu would count the unusable 20-year old stuff that was disposed of, but the rest of the world doesn't). Obama's claims are related to events that occurred a week ago. There IS evidence of what he is claiming.

As for Iraq moving shit to Syria--that doesn't exonerate W in the least--it makes his actions worse. Anyway, there's no evidence of that.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:02 PM   #35
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If nothing is done, as most of you are advocating, what will be your critique?

Obama will be portrayed as a coward.

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Old 08-31-2013, 03:37 PM   #36
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Bush was called a liar because he claimed there were WMDs and programs and there were not (patteu would count the unusable 20-year old stuff that was disposed of, but the rest of the world doesn't). Obama's claims are related to events that occurred a week ago. There IS evidence of what he is claiming.

As for Iraq moving shit to Syria--that doesn't exonerate W in the least--it makes his actions worse. Anyway, there's no evidence of that.
You should speak for yourself. And despite what people called him, the failure to find fresh WMD programs didn't make him a liar. He, along with just about everyone else in both parties, and every western government, and Saddam's own generals were wrong, but they believed what they were saying.

And no, Iraqi WMD moved to Syria doesn't make things worse. It would just mean that there was even more basis for their good faith beliefs than what they already have.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:38 PM   #37
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If nothing is done, as most of you are advocating, what will be your critique?

Obama will be portrayed as a coward.

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The right wing circle jerk didn't force Obama to maneuver himself into a no win situation. He made his bed of fail and now he'll have to lie in it. He's a disaster.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:43 PM   #38
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The right wing circle jerk didn't force Obama to maneuver himself into a no win situation. He made his bed of fail and now he'll have to lie in it. He's a disaster.
I'll close my eyes, put some ear plugs in and scream at the top of my lungs if it'll make you feel better. Like we don't know there is absolutely no objectivity in any statement you make concerning politics.

He could cure cancer with his tears and you'd be ripping him for not crying enough.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:50 PM   #39
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I'll close my eyes, put some ear plugs in and scream at the top of my lungs if it'll make you feel better. Like we don't know there is absolutely no objectivity in any statement you make concerning politics.

He could cure cancer with his tears and you'd be ripping him for not crying enough.
This isn't secret knowledge. It's there for anyone to see. The only people who can't see it are people who aren't looking and people who don't know what they're looking at.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:51 PM   #40
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This isn't secret knowledge. It's there for anyone to see. The only people who can't see it are people who aren't looking and people who don't know what they're looking at.
Please educate me on your consistent objectivity. I sure don't see it, but I guess my glasses aren't red enough.
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Please educate me on your consistent objectivity. I sure don't see it, but I guess my glasses aren't red enough.
Did you relapse again? What are you talking about?
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As for Iraq moving shit to Syria--that doesn't exonerate W in the least--it makes his actions worse. Anyway, there's no evidence of that.
Boy, I'd like to hear the logic behind that statement.
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Did you relapse again? What are you talking about?
It was a sarcastic comment about your objectivity. You acknowledge you don't have it but throw out comments like you do. IMO, you're just a slightly more intelligent shtsprayer. That puts you somewhere in between toe jam and belly button lint.
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:19 PM   #44
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I don't think the thread starter is correct. They promised action if CW were used, they were used, and now they are trying to stall as long as they can looking for an escape hatch.
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