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Old 08-30-2013, 11:50 AM  
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KERRY CONDEMNS SYRIA: 'IT MATTERS HERE IF NOTHING IS DONE'....http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...-humanity?lite


Congrats Obots. Now your boy has his own little no need, no benefit, no approval shootin war to call his own. Its a moral obligation to blast shit out of something in syria somewhere because somebody there is like really bad.

Cant wait to see Hillary defend this. What do you Obots think? Will she stand by her man? Or will she go off the reservation and condem this act? She cannot be neutral...

Makes you wonder if Obama is not out to sink her ship where it sits....

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Old 08-31-2013, 04:28 PM   #46
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Boy, I'd like to hear the logic behind that statement.
I hate to even recognize the ridiculous argument that Iraq shipped it goodies to Syria (there's no evidence of it, and why would Syria want the heat if they were caught?), but for starters, W claimed we knew there were WMDs and we knew where they were. Almost the entire basis for the invasion was the presence of the WMDs. And then he let them escape in trucks over the border? I'd say that would be pretty ****ing stupid.
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:29 PM   #47
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I don't think the thread starter is correct. They promised action if CW were used, they were used, and now they are trying to stall as long as they can looking for an escape hatch.
This is true. But at the time of the OP they were balls out going forward...Kerrys speech was delivered to set that stage.....but now....as you say, the game is a new one. Escape is being set in place. And its pretty well done. To get Obama out of this corner and not submarine midterms and Hillary is pretty slick.
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:36 PM   #48
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I hate to even recognize the ridiculous argument that Iraq shipped it goodies to Syria (there's no evidence of it, and why would Syria want the heat if they were caught?), but for starters, W claimed we knew there were WMDs and we knew where they were. Almost the entire basis for the invasion was the presence of the WMDs. And then he let them escape in trucks over the border? I'd say that would be pretty ****ing stupid.
Good god don't ever complain about pat's objectivity again.
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:43 PM   #49
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Good god don't ever complain about pat's objectivity again.
Point out the problem with what I said. You asked about a common, yet completely fact-free, right-wing explanation of the "missing" WMDs. I think it would pretty ****ing incompetent to allow 95% of the premise for invading to escape over the border. Is that unreasonable?
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:48 PM   #50
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Point out the problem with what I said. You asked about a common, yet completely fact-free, right-wing explanation of the "missing" WMDs. I think it would pretty ****ing incompetent to allow 95% of the premise for invading to escape over the border. Is that unreasonable?
Yes, it's unreasonable. It's so unreasonable it's partisan stupid. We can't even control our own border, let alone someone else's.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:04 PM   #51
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Point out the problem with what I said. You asked about a common, yet completely fact-free, right-wing explanation of the "missing" WMDs. I think it would pretty ****ing incompetent to allow 95% of the premise for invading to escape over the border. Is that unreasonable?
You're either incredibly stupid or so blindly partisan that you ignore anything that doesn't fit with your preconceived notion of reality.

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Old 08-31-2013, 05:08 PM   #52
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Yes, it's unreasonable. It's so unreasonable it's partisan stupid. We can't even control our own border, let alone someone else's.
I guess if I knew where something was, and I was about wage a massive war over it, I might keep an eye on that something.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:14 PM   #53
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You're either incredibly stupid or so blindly partisan that you ignore anything that doesn't fit with your preconceived notion of reality.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...257r/?page=all

http://www.amazon.com/Saddams-Secret.../dp/1591454042
Oh, my bad. I didn't realize someone wrote a book about it.
After I see what General Sada has to say, I'll be sure to get corroboration from CoMoChief.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:20 PM   #54
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I guess if I knew where something was, and I was about wage a massive war over it, I might keep an eye on that something.
Hey liberals, jump on in here and give this guy some high fives. He's making you all look 'smart'.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:25 PM   #55
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Oh, my bad. I didn't realize someone wrote a book about it.
After I see what General Sada has to say, I'll be sure to get corroboration from CoMoChief.
You're a ****ing hack. So even if an ex Iraqi General AND Russians who were there say that it happened.. you won't believe it? I'm guessing you're the type of ****ing moron who doesn't believe we went to the moon either.

So what will make you believe? When Rachel Maddow tells you it happened? It's sad how transparently partisans and blind you are.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:37 PM   #56
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I hate to even recognize the ridiculous argument that Iraq shipped it goodies to Syria (there's no evidence of it, and why would Syria want the heat if they were caught?), but for starters, W claimed we knew there were WMDs and we knew where they were. Almost the entire basis for the invasion was the presence of the WMDs. And then he let them escape in trucks over the border? I'd say that would be pretty ****ing stupid.
tip of the iceberg when we discuss W crookery. let me jog your memory -- he declared war and then waited 30 days to commence. and the american people still cheered for victory. as if iraq would have in some way had a chance to win. it's like putting a heavyweight champ in the ring with a 40yo midget. no chance. but somehow those WMD's got away. sure.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:30 PM   #57
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It was a sarcastic comment about your objectivity. You acknowledge you don't have it but throw out comments like you do. IMO, you're just a slightly more intelligent shtsprayer. That puts you somewhere in between toe jam and belly button lint.
As I said before, Obama's foreign policy fail is there for the world to see. I see it despite my lack of objectivity. The British see it. Putin sees it. The Iranians see it. General Sisi and the Muslim Brotherhood see it. Even members of the American mainstream media are beginning to see it. You should be able to see it too, but you apparently don't want to.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:35 PM   #58
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You're a ****ing hack. So even if an ex Iraqi General AND Russians who were there say that it happened.. you won't believe it? I'm guessing you're the type of ****ing moron who doesn't believe we went to the moon either.

So what will make you believe? When Rachel Maddow tells you it happened? It's sad how transparently partisans and blind you are.
Well, those parties are usually pretty credible...

You're comparing this to the moon landing? Are you ****ing drunk tonight?
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As I said before, Obama's foreign policy fail is there for the world to see. I see it despite my lack of objectivity. The British see it. Putin sees it. The Iranians see it. General Sisi and the Muslim Brotherhood see it. Even members of the American mainstream media are beginning to see it. You should be able to see it too, but you apparently don't want to.
I see flaws sir. Please don't paint me in the corner with the knuckle dragging Obama don't do nothing wrong far left. I'm way further to the right than that.

The hilarity is your proclaimed dislike of the tow the party line lefties when the truth is they exist merely to offset the likes of you: the tow the party line righties.

You're no better than them, in fact you are them.
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Well, those parties are usually pretty credible...

You're comparing this to the moon landing? Are you ****ing drunk tonight?
So you don't believe the US government, Wikileaks, Iraqi Generals or the Russians who unequivocally state that they were there to move WMDs to Syria?
At this point you have shown that NOTHING will make you believe.. unless of course it becomes politically expedient for your party for you to do so.

I'm comparing your rampant partisan blindness to the type of idiots who don't believe the moon landing happened. It's that level of stupid. If you HONESTLY think that Iraqi WMDs weren't moved to Syria than you aren't worth discussing this topic with. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing.

Again, you're a ****ing joke.
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