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Old 08-30-2013, 12:50 PM  
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Congrats Obots. Now your boy has his own little no need, no benefit, no approval shootin war to call his own. Its a moral obligation to blast shit out of something in syria somewhere because somebody there is like really bad.

Cant wait to see Hillary defend this. What do you Obots think? Will she stand by her man? Or will she go off the reservation and condem this act? She cannot be neutral...

Makes you wonder if Obama is not out to sink her ship where it sits....

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Old 08-31-2013, 08:36 PM   #61
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I see flaws sir. Please don't paint me in the corner with the knuckle dragging Obama don't do nothing wrong far left. I'm way further to the right than that.

The hilarity is your proclaimed dislike of the tow the party line lefties when the truth is they exist merely to offset the likes of you: the tow the party line righties.

You're no better than them, in fact you are them.
I take almost as much criticism from conservatives around here as I do from liberals so it will be news to them that I toe the party line. But that's neither here nor there. The topic at hand is the failure of our President and that is undeniable.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:54 PM   #62
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So you don't believe the US government, Wikileaks, Iraqi Generals or the Russians who unequivocally state that they were there to move WMDs to Syria?
At this point you have shown that NOTHING will make you believe.. unless of course it becomes politically expedient for your party for you to do so.

I'm comparing your rampant partisan blindness to the type of idiots who don't believe the moon landing happened. It's that level of stupid. If you HONESTLY think that Iraqi WMDs weren't moved to Syria than you aren't worth discussing this topic with. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing.

Again, you're a ****ing joke.
The US govt? This is the official position of the Pentagon, Rumsfeld, Bush and Cheney? Partisan blindness? I'm basically backing Bush on this.

If Iraqi WMDs--the reason we invaded--were moved to Syria, then it was still a huge, monumental, complete and total ****-up.

Also, then why the hell didn't we go get them once we "knew" Syria had what we were looking for? I'm going to assume you started drinking early tonight, CoMoChief Jr.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:57 PM   #63
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So you don't believe the US government, Wikileaks, Iraqi Generals or the Russians who unequivocally state that they were there to move WMDs to Syria?
At this point you have shown that NOTHING will make you believe.. unless of course it becomes politically expedient for your party for you to do so.

I'm comparing your rampant partisan blindness to the type of idiots who don't believe the moon landing happened. It's that level of stupid. If you HONESTLY think that Iraqi WMDs weren't moved to Syria than you aren't worth discussing this topic with. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing.

Again, you're a ****ing joke.
I haven't read the material you are talking about. When I get time I'll pick it up, however, all things being equal, I find it difficult to believe that they weren't showing mass weapon movement after the collective American people said "**** you, you lied Bush."

Ftr, the moon landing did happen. I went to the desert where Armstrong and Buzz did it.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:58 PM   #64
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I take almost as much criticism from conservatives around here as I do from liberals so it will be news to them that I toe the party line. But that's neither here nor there. The topic at hand is the failure of our President and that is undeniable.
In fairness, I'd agree with you there. It's more like you toe the party line from the classic 2001 to approximately 2007 time period. You're stuck there.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:11 PM   #65
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The US govt? This is the official position of the Pentagon, Rumsfeld, Bush and Cheney? Partisan blindness? I'm basically backing Bush on this.

If Iraqi WMDs--the reason we invaded--were moved to Syria, then it was still a huge, monumental, complete and total ****-up.

Also, then why the hell didn't we go get them once we "knew" Syria had what we were looking for? I'm going to assume you started drinking early tonight, CoMoChief Jr.
There were moved prior to invasion, idiot. You'd know this if you bothered to read and keep up with the facts instead of getting them spoon fed to you from Mother Jones.

And why didn't we invade Syria? Are you a ****ing moron? Your understanding of the middle east if embarrassing.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:14 PM   #66
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I haven't read the material you are talking about. When I get time I'll pick it up, however, all things being equal, I find it difficult to believe that they weren't showing mass weapon movement after the collective American people said "**** you, you lied Bush."
Quite a bit of this information came out years and years later and the damage was already done. Why bother dredging it back up? I get the impression that Bush could give a shit.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:17 PM   #67
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The US govt? This is the official position of the Pentagon, Rumsfeld, Bush and Cheney?
And yes, yes it is. If you weren't a complete partisan hack you might know this.

Come on pig... SING!!! Nope. It's no good. Heinlein was right.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:18 PM   #68
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There were moved prior to invasion, idiot. You'd know this if you bothered to read and keep up with the facts instead of getting them spoon fed to you from Mother Jones.

And why didn't we invade Syria? Are you a ****ing moron? Your understanding of the middle east if embarrassing.
Yes, I understand that is the story. Which would make invading that much more of a ****-up.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:23 PM   #69
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Quite a bit of this information came out years and years later and the damage was already done. Why bother dredging it back up? I get the impression that Bush could give a shit.
Perhaps. However, I would think proof of justification of his motives to send us to war would be a huge incentive.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:25 PM   #70
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Yes, I understand that is the story. Which would make invading that much more of a ****-up.
Ah, I see what you mean. I will fully admit the whole WMD thing was an excuse to invade not a genuine reason. Unlike you, I am not here to kowtow to some party line.

Here are some FACTS for you.
  1. Iraq at some point had a thriving WMD industry.
  2. Prior to invasion there were MASSIVE convoys spotted going from Iraq to Syria.
  3. An ex Iraqi General claims they held WMDs among other weapons.
  4. Ex Russian military "advisors" have come forward claiming that they helped move WMDs and other weapons to Syria.
  5. Iraqi manufactured weapons have RECENTLY been found in Syria (SCUDS)
  6. Someone in Syria recently used chemical weapons.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:25 PM   #71
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And yes, yes it is. If you weren't a complete partisan hack you might know this.

Come on pig... SING!!! Nope. It's no good. Heinlein was right.
Please link to me to the quote from Bush or Cheney that there WERE WMDs in Iraq, but they tricked us by moving them to Syria at the last minute. And don't give me some bullshit site. I'd even accept Fox on this one.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:31 PM   #72
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Makes you wonder why Obama doesn't seem interested as to where Syria picked up their WMD.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:39 PM   #73
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Ah, I see what you mean. I will fully admit the whole WMD thing was an excuse to invade not a genuine reason. Unlike you, I am not here to kowtow to some party line.

Here are some FACTS for you.

[*]Iraq at some point had a thriving WMD industry.
Yes, the 1980s.

[*]Prior to invasion there were MASSIVE convoys spotted going from Iraq to Syria. [*]An ex Iraqi General claims they held WMDs among other weapons.
The VERY credible General Sada claims they were taken out on planes.

[*]Ex Russian military "advisors" have come forward claiming that they helped move WMDs and other weapons to Syria.
JFC

[*]Iraqi manufactured weapons have RECENTLY been found in Syria (SCUDS)
Wasn't aware of that, if true, but shit, could have been some off-target misfire intended for Israel 20+ years ago. And SCUDs does not = chemical weapons

[*]Someone in Syria recently used chemical weapons.
Oh, well--that's the clincher! Chemical weapons were never found in Iraq. Chemical weapons are in Syria. Therefore, they must be the same! Hell, are such weapons made 10-20+ years ago even still useful?

So, you do "fully admit the whole WMD thing was an excuse to invade not a genuine reason." Yet you do think the WMDs did exist. And were moved out from under our nose. And that they still used WMDs as the excuse to invade. JFC, you ARE CoMoChief Jr.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:40 PM   #74
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It was a sarcastic comment about your objectivity. You acknowledge you don't have it but throw out comments like you do. IMO, you're just a slightly more intelligent shtsprayer. That puts you somewhere in between toe jam and belly button lint.
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Makes you wonder why Obama doesn't seem interested as to where Syria picked up their WMD.
Why do they need to be "picked up" somewhere?
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