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Old 09-04-2013, 07:59 AM  
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Brandon Flowers restructures to help KC

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Brandon Flowers restructured his contract. Converted $4M of $7.35M base to a signing bous, clearing $3M in cap space for the Chiefs
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:32 PM   #76
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It's certainly debatable but I think Houston is better than Hali right now. He's better against the run and pass. Even if Hali edges him out in pass rush, I'll take the more complete defender every time.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:35 PM   #77
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top 5 in the weak AFC, which mean like top 15 in the NFL

i'm not sure that counts as elite

Hali,Charles and DJ are probably the only elite guys we have

Houston might end up being elite ... hoping our defense will be less passive this year and some of these guys will make more impact.
You don't think Flowers is elite? Really?
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:37 PM   #78
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top 5 in the weak AFC, which mean like top 15 in the NFL

i'm not sure that counts as elite

Hali,Charles and DJ are probably the only elite guys we have

Houston might end up being elite ... hoping our defense will be less passive this year and some of these guys will make more impact.
Houston is better than Hali. And that's saying something.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:39 PM   #79
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Houston is better than Hali. And that's saying something.
I agree man. Would we be better if we flipped them? Could Houston play on the right side as well as he plays on the left? I know they occasionally flip sides now but, I am talking permanently in the base defense.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:42 PM   #80
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top 5 in the weak AFC, which mean like top 15 in the NFL

i'm not sure that counts as elite

Hali,Charles and DJ are probably the only elite guys we have

Houston might end up being elite ... hoping our defense will be less passive this year and some of these guys will make more impact.
Berry, Bowe, and Flowers would start for every team in the league. I call that elite.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:43 PM   #81
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I'd want the better, more disciplined run defender on the strong side. From what little I have seen thus far, I think it best to primarily leave Hali and Houston where they are.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:45 PM   #82
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I'd want the better, more disciplined run defender on the strong side. From what little I have seen thus far, I think it best to primarily leave Hali and Houston where they are.
Hali seems to be the better run defender imo.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:53 PM   #83
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Berry, Bowe, and Flowers would start for every team in the league. I call that elite.
I think that is an excellent definition.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:13 PM   #84
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Hali seems to be the better run defender imo.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:23 PM   #85
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i know i'm late on the point but to all you guys on this magical Brandon Lloyd bandwagon...

correct me if I'm wrong, maybe the 500 new influx of 49er fans can answer this, but I am pretty sure Brandon Lloyd and Alex Smith don't like each other from their days in SF
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:39 PM   #86
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Berry, Bowe, and Flowers would start for every team in the league. I call that elite.
maybe so ... i just don't consider 'starting' as elite
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:42 PM   #87
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Hali seems to be the better run defender imo.
That's b/c your an idiot. Hali sells out on the pass rush and gets caught out of position for backside contain. Saw it happen once or twice for huge runs just this preseason.

That and Houston sheds blocks with incredible ease.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:43 PM   #88
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Hali
Houston
Flowers
Albert
Charles
Bowe*
Berry
Albert
Derrick Johnson

I'd put every one of those guys in the top five at their position in the AFC.

*debatable
Albert so good that he needs to be there twice?

Joe Staley, Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, Veldheer, Duane Brown, D'Brickishaw Ferguson, Sam Baker, Jake Long.

I think the 5 bolded are definitely better at the moment than Brendan Albert, with the other guys in the discussion. I love Bowe, but im not sure you can put him in a top 5 category either.

Calvin, Dez, Aj Green, Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitz, Aj Johnson, Steve Smith, Vincent Jackson.

I think talent wise he is there, and if he had any of those guys qbs I think there would be no discussion.
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i know i'm late on the point but to all you guys on this magical Brandon Lloyd bandwagon...

correct me if I'm wrong, maybe the 500 new influx of 49er fans can answer this, but I am pretty sure Brandon Lloyd and Alex Smith don't like each other from their days in SF
That's not true. Mike Nolan didn't like Brandon Lloyd.....
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Also I think you guys need to settle down. This was likely just a move to get us under the cap. Doubtful we sign anyone.
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