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Old 09-06-2013, 08:15 AM  
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Obama Russia speech to press

Painful. Watchin Obama speak this afternoon. Im in Italy so seeing this live. My god Obama comes across as a inept poor communicator and has zero ability to get a point out. Stammering pausing and stuttering like an unprepared idiot

Pretty much across the board the locals think he is nuts wanting to shoot up Syria for killing Syrians to teach them not to kill Syrians with gas and not do a thing about the gas. Cooking school this evening will be interesting as Italians have no problem tellin what they feel.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:52 PM   #46
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So...

How was everybody's recovery summer?

Better than the previous 3 recovery summers?
Obama wants amnesty becuase it'll "help" the economy. As if he knows how to help anything. And even though they compete in the labor market with minorities. Here's Putin's view:

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Old 09-06-2013, 01:54 PM   #47
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A vast majority of conservatives agree with me on gay marriage. So your point that Obama actually has the "conservative view" is horribly dumb. That's why you shifted your point to some nonsense about free speech on gays. As if you really thought I'd be dumb enough to not follow your attempt to deflect.


"Oh, Putin doesn't allow dissent on gays but Obama does! That means Obama is the conservative here! Tee hee, aren't I witty?" - Pat
It's not about gay marriage. It's about free speech. And I didn't shift any point, you tried to.

I didn't say Obama has the conservative view. Obama and I share the American view, along with most conservatives and liberals in this country. You and a minority of Americans, bigots from both sides of the aisle, agree with Putin on this.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:56 PM   #48
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It's not about gay marriage. It's about free speech. And I didn't shift any point, you tried to.

I didn't say Obama has the conservative view. Obama and I share the American view, along with most conservatives and liberals in this country. You and a minority of Americans, bigots from both sides of the aisle, agree with Putin on this.
Neither Putin nor Obama believe in free speech, you doofus.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/08/at...ct-minorities/
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:59 PM   #49
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A vast majority of conservatives agree with me on gay marriage. So your point that Obama actually has the "conservative view" is horribly dumb. That's why you shifted your point to some nonsense about free speech on gays. As if you really thought I'd be dumb enough to not follow your attempt to deflect.


"Oh, Putin doesn't allow dissent on gays but Obama does! That means Obama is the conservative here! Tee hee, aren't I witty?" - Pat
Seems like the "conservative" view on marriage would be to have the govt stay out of it. But if the govt is not going to stay out of it, then give the benefits allowed to married people to whoever wants to get married.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:06 PM   #50
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Neither Putin nor Obama believe in free speech, you doofus.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/08/at...ct-minorities/
Stop trying to change the subject. We're talking about a specific issue. Whether or not it should be against the law to speak positively about homosexuality in public. Putin thinks it should be illegal. Obama and I think it should be legal. Side with Putin if you want, but most Americans, both conservative and liberal, would side with me (and Obama).
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:10 PM   #51
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Stop trying to change the subject. We're talking about a specific issue. Whether or not it should be against the law to speak positively about homosexuality in public. Putin thinks it should be illegal. Obama and I think it should be legal. Side with Putin if you want, but most Americans, both conservative and liberal, would side with me (and Obama).
Obama thinks free speech about minorities should be illegal. Putin does not. Side with Obama over Putin if you want, but most Americans would side with he & I. See, I can be a 4th grader just as well as you can.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:13 PM   #52
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Obama thinks free speech about minorities should be illegal. Putin does not. Side with Obama over Putin if you want, but most Americans would side with he & I. See, I can be a 4th grader just as well as you can.
I don't know what Putin's opinion about speech involving minorities is, but I doubt that he supports free speech in any meaningful way. Try again.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #53
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I don't know what Putin's opinion about speech involving minorities is, but I doubt that he supports free speech in any meaningful way. Try again.
I don't follow this at all. Putin has put restrictions on speech that Russians can say about minorities? I think you're lying.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:21 PM   #54
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I don't follow this at all. Putin has put restrictions on speech that Russians can say about minorities? I think you're lying.
I'm feeling generous so I'll assume that this is true and that it's an issue of stupidity rather than intentional misinterpretation.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:30 PM   #55
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I'm feeling generous so I'll assume that this is true and that it's an issue of stupidity rather than intentional misinterpretation.
Exactly. Obama wants to restrict free speech on minorities, Putin doesn't. I'm amazed you agree with Obama on this one.
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If they have solid evidence they gassed those people.. The United Nations should have no choice but to back us.

Proof- now that is the slippery sloop.
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:00 PM   #57
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If they have solid evidence they gassed those people.. The United Nations should have no choice but to back us.

Proof- now that is the slippery sloop.
The Russians aren't going to turn their backs on Syria whether there's ironclad evidence that they've used gas or not, just like we wouldn't have supported Russia attacking Iraq when Iraq gassed the Iranians and we looked the other way (not that they would have, because Iraq was more their friend than ours, but just for the sake of argument).

If Russia won't support it, the UN can't support it.
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If they have solid evidence they gassed those people.. The United Nations should have no choice but to back us.

Proof- now that is the slippery sloop.
Let's assume the charges are 110% true. So what? Doesn't have anything to do with the the U.S.
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:09 PM   #59
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3 and a half more years of this idiot.

No shit...is it just me or does time seem to be slowing down? Feels like he's been President for 10 goddam years...
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Why does he keep calling it "My Military." That's such a strange thing for a president to keep repeating - and it's not on accident.

That's a creepy thing to keep hearing the President of the United States saying.
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