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Old 12-19-2013, 02:48 PM  
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Thought Control Cops Still On The Offensive: Reddit Bans Climate Change Skeptics

A content editor on Reddit’s science forum wrote Monday that the site has banned climate-change skeptics, and asks why more news outlets haven’t done the same.

“About a year ago, we moderators became increasingly stringent with deniers,” Reddit content editor Nathan Allen wrote in grist. “When a potentially controversial submission was posted, a warning would be issued stating the rules for comments (most importantly that your comment isn’t a conspiracy theory) and advising that further violations of the rules could result in the commenter being banned from the forum.”

Allen explains that climate change became an ironically heated topic among commenters on Reddit’s science forum, /r/science, which he described as “a window into the Ivory Tower” for “non-scientists” to connect with experts like himself.

Climate-change believers accused skeptics of being bought out by “big oil,” while the skeptics accused believers of being on the take from “big green.”

Despite the provocative comments on both sides described by Allen, and Reddit’s reputation as “passionately dedicated to free speech,” the self-described “PhD chemist” decided it was time for the skeptics to go.

“After some time interacting with the regular denier posters, it became clear that they could not or would not improve their demeanor,” Allen said. “As a scientist myself, it became clear to me that the contrarians were not capable of providing the science to support their ‘skepticism’ on climate change.”

As a result, about half a dozen content editors now practice “proactive moderation” on the science forum’s reported 4-million subscribers.

“As moderators responsible for what millions of people see, we felt that to allow a handful of commenters to so purposefully mislead our audience was simply immoral,” Allen said of the audience he previously described as “mainly academic.”

He later describes the same audience as “‘internet trolls’ looking to have a little fun upsetting people. Such users are practically the norm on Reddit.”

Allen then expressed surprise that removing an entire faction of commenters “resulted in a change in the culture within the comments. Where once there were personal insults and bitter accusations, there is now discussion of the relevant aspects of the research.”

“While we won’t claim /r/science is perfect, users seem happy with the changes made,” Allen said.

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Old 12-19-2013, 02:49 PM   #2
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:33 PM   #3
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The NFL & Facebook and Reddit discredit themselves by taking positions against POV'S that they disagree with.
Science says Earth is 4.54 billion years old. These pseudo scientist want people to believe in global warming when they have data from just a few years of temperature logging under their belt. Truth is the earth and is cooling and the sun is the biggest influence on temp, not cow farts.
CO has already been proven to have zero effect on ozone.
If the green fanatics want to discuss increases in cancer, maybe I'll listen.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:57 PM   #4
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He later describes the same audience as “‘internet trolls’ looking to have a little fun upsetting people. Such users are practically the norm on Reddit.”
I'm glad we don't have that problem here.
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:08 PM   #5
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The NFL & Facebook and Reddit discredit themselves by taking positions against POV'S that they disagree with.
Science says Earth is 4.54 billion years old. These pseudo scientist want people to believe in global warming when they have data from just a few years of temperature logging under their belt. Truth is the earth and is cooling and the sun is the biggest influence on temp, not cow facts.
CO2 has already been proven to have zero effect on ozone.
If the green fanatics want to discuss increases in cancer, maybe I'll listen.
I'm glad we got this all cleared up.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:23 PM   #6
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The science is strong with this one.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:31 AM   #7
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I'm glad we got this all cleared up.
Well truth be told the sun IS the greatest influence on Earth's temps... that is an indisputable scientific fact. Where you get into debatable territory is when you talk about solar VARIANCE. Still some gaps in our knowledge there but we are making significant strides recently.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:48 AM   #8
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Well truth be told the sun IS the greatest influence on Earth's temps... that is an indisputable scientific fact. Where you get into debatable territory is when you talk about solar VARIANCE. Still some gaps in our knowledge there but we are making significant strides recently.
This and an increase in volcanic activity expelling large amounts of dust and ash into the atmosphere.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:54 AM   #9
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Well truth be told the sun IS the greatest influence on Earth's temps... that is an indisputable scientific fact. Where you get into debatable territory is when you talk about solar VARIANCE. Still some gaps in our knowledge there but we are making significant strides recently.
My response was directed more at the "Cow facts" being prematurely cleared of any wrong doing. But yeah, I agree with you.....
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:59 AM   #12
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Sounds like r/Science mods felt that the subreddit was too much dominated by climate change threads, so they banned climate change skepticism in an effort for threads that aren't about climate change to shine.

Climate change skeptics are free to start their own sub-reddit, if they don't already have one.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:59 AM   #13
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Pet peeve, but they're using the word "Skeptic" incorrectly in this case. They're using the word "Skeptics", but what they're describing is simply "Deniers". Being skeptical of climate change doesn't mean you don't believe in climate change. Not in the slightest. All scientists should be considered skeptics to a degree.

Skepticism, at least in dealing with scientific topics, does not equate to "Denial". That's only the case in philosophical uses.

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Scientific skeptics attempt to evaluate claims based on verifiability and falsifiability and discourage accepting claims on faith or anecdotal evidence. Skeptics often focus their criticism on claims they consider to be implausible, dubious or clearly contradictory to generally accepted science. Scientific skeptics do not assert that unusual claims should be automatically rejected out of hand on a priori grounds - rather they argue that claims of paranormal or anomalous phenomena should be critically examined and that extraordinary claims would require extraordinary evidence in their favor before they could be accepted as having validity.
What they did on Reddit was ban people who wouldn't acknowledge any degree of truth to climate change. That's the important distinction that I don't think is being explained. There are tons of aspects of climate change that are still widely debatable, and for good reason. What's not debatable is that climate change as a whole is occurring. The evidence for that is undeniable. They simply banned the worst of the kooks that scream climate change is a complete hoax and will not acknowledge the true parts of the climate change model that we have proven evidence for.
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