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Old 09-13-2013, 08:28 PM  
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Rand Paul, 2016 Republican front-runner

Rand Paul, 2016 Republican front-runner
By Chris Cillizza

The first eight-plus months of 2013 have convinced us of one thing: Rand Paul acts and the rest of the potential 2016 Republican presidential field reacts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...n-frontrunner/
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:29 PM   #2
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I don't count myself a fan of Cillizza, but I happen to agree...
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:31 PM   #3
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And he is going to get absolutely smoked in the general election.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:41 PM   #4
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:45 PM   #5
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And he is going to get absolutely smoked in the general election.
By who? Don't make me laugh.

Hear me now and believe me later, when the next election comes, people are going to be so sick of this lame duck president and the lame duck democrats that he keeps around him that they'll see Rand Paul's libertarian views as welcome respite from this constant drumbeat of mishaps, and misstatements, and scandal, and general ineptitude.

The democrats don't have anybody new and fresh just hiding somewhere. They've got a bunch of broken old neocon equivalents like Hillary Clinton, Biden and Kerry. That ship sailed when Obama decided to strike Syria with "his" army and they all signed on in a show of solidarity. The democrats are going to find themselves behind the Republicans in 2016 because they're going to have the same split with their base where establishment democrats will be pit against their own grass roots who are no longer willing to come along.

That's a BIG pool of people that Rand Paul is going to be able to draw from. Reagan showed us what that's all about. Libertarian tongued presidents have a way of calling them blue dogs out there home.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:46 PM   #6
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In. This won't be as epically stupid as the 9/11 thread, but it'll be close.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:50 PM   #7
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By who? Don't make me laugh.

Hear me now and believe me later, when the next election comes, people are going to be so sick of this lame duck president and the lame duck democrats that he keeps around him that they'll see Rand Paul's libertarian views as welcome respite from this constant drumbeat of mishaps, and misstatements, and scandal, and general ineptitude.

The democrats don't have anybody new and fresh just hiding somewhere. They've got a bunch of broken old neocon equivalents like Hillary Clinton, Biden and Kerry. That ship sailed when Obama decided to strike Syria with "his" army and they all signed on in a show of solidarity. The democrats are going to find themselves behind the Republicans in 2016 because they're going to have the same split with their base where establishment democrats will be pit against their own grass roots who are no longer willing to come along.

That's a BIG pool of people that Rand Paul is going to be able to draw from. Reagan showed us what that's all about. Libertarian tongued presidents have a way of calling them blue dogs out there home.
and ron paul was going to win the nomination and the presidency but those mean old republicans wouldn't vote for him...

now you're saying his fringe nut case son is going to win a general election for president?

taco, i know you're earnest and actually buy into the whole paul mystique and that's alright...

but rand paul has less chance to actually be nominated, let alone elected, than his old man...
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:52 PM   #8
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In. This won't be as epically stupid as the 9/11 thread, but it'll be close.
nah, poor excuse for a drama thread, who's gonna get serious about rand paul?

but it's more amusing than another obama hate thread or crapski's threads...
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:58 PM   #9
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By who? Don't make me laugh.

Hear me now and believe me later, when the next election comes, people are going to be so sick of this lame duck president and the lame duck democrats that he keeps around him that they'll see Rand Paul's libertarian views as welcome respite from this constant drumbeat of mishaps, and misstatements, and scandal, and general ineptitude.

The democrats don't have anybody new and fresh just hiding somewhere. They've got a bunch of broken old neocon equivalents like Hillary Clinton, Biden and Kerry. That ship sailed when Obama decided to strike Syria with "his" army and they all signed on in a show of solidarity. The democrats are going to find themselves behind the Republicans in 2016 because they're going to have the same split with their base where establishment democrats will be pit against their own grass roots who are no longer willing to come along.

That's a BIG pool of people that Rand Paul is going to be able to draw from. Reagan showed us what that's all about. Libertarian tongued presidents have a way of calling them blue dogs out there home.
The reason the BIG pool of voters are called swing voters is because they can be convinced to lean one way or the other. They aren't going to jump to a completely opposite extreme in any kind of waves.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:12 PM   #10
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but rand paul has less chance to actually be nominated, let alone elected, than his old man...
I disagree here, he has a FAR better chance of winning the primary compared to his old man... I'd say his chances are 100 times better... so the odds would be something like 1 in 10,000 instead of 1 in 1,000,000
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:05 PM   #11
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I disagree here, he has a FAR better chance of winning the primary compared to his old man... I'd say his chances are 100 times better... so the odds would be something like 1 in 10,000 instead of 1 in 1,000,000
you're right of course...

i worded that poorly, i blame it on the crown and coke i was drinking tonight...
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:07 PM   #12
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I do agree with Paul an Cruz on many issues but there's zero chance they can compete in, let alone win swing states. Does anyone really think Hillary Clinton would get beaten in Virginia by Rand Paul? Does anyone think seniors in Florida Would stick with the GOP if they had someone talking about privatizing social security?

The GOP is successful at the state level by focusing on economic issues and the realities of actual daily governance. John Kasich is an excellent candidate with real world experience both in the us Senate and the governors chair, who'd be great at the debates and he gives you a legit shot at Ohio which, frankly, the GOP cannot win the electoral college without.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:10 PM   #13
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He doesn't stand a chance, unfortunately, against Hillary.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:16 PM   #14
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By who? Don't make me laugh.

Hear me now and believe me later, when the next election comes, people are going to be so sick of this lame duck president and the lame duck democrats that he keeps around him that they'll see Rand Paul's libertarian views as welcome respite from this constant drumbeat of mishaps, and misstatements, and scandal, and general ineptitude.

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That's a BIG pool of people that Rand Paul is going to be able to draw from. Reagan showed us what that's all about. Libertarian tongued presidents have a way of calling them blue dogs out there home.

the kochs won't fund him
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you are backing a unicorn
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:20 AM   #15
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He doesn't stand a chance, unfortunately, against Hillary.
lol are you kidding me?

Hilary is not running for president. that bitches' political career is ****in' ruined.
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