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Old 09-17-2013, 07:51 AM  
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GOP can't win Latinos due to NRA

Pro-gun policies, NRA, may undercut GOP Latino outreach
Jane C. Timm, @janestreet
2:28 PM on 02/14/2013


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Republican opposition to gun control measures may damage the party amongst Latino voters, even as the party works to rebuild its image amongst the country’s fastest-growing voter block.

Just 18% of Latinos own guns, making them less likely than any other racial demographic to own a firearm, and they value gun rights less than any other demographic, according to a February Gallup poll. An April 2012 poll found that 57% of white voters ranked gun rights over that of gun ownership, as opposed to 29% of Latinos who ranked gun rights over gun ownership.

“Community violence and gun violence is something that has a deep impact within the Latino community, Latinos are about seven times more likely to die at the hands of a gun,” explained Jennifer Ng’andu, the director of health and civil rights at National Council of La Raza.


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Old 09-19-2013, 03:26 PM   #91
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Yeah except they don't. Hispanics tend to be socially and fiscally conservative.
That's funny because from what i've seen, a lot of hispanics do share a lot of values with republicans. I mentioned this before the last POTUS election, but it's worth repeating.

I had a conversation with a mexican girl and she wanted to talk politics. Everything she valued was textbook republican. This girl was basically a Republican, but she was going to vote democrat based off the fact that democrats were at least putting forth some effort into immigration reform, and 2ndly, the generalization that Republicans are bigots.

You log onto Chiefsplanet and read posts like some of the ones in DC and it's no wonder why so many are flocking to the blue.

She should be a Republican voter, but the misrepresentation of the Republican party by republican voters swayed her into being a democrat.
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:36 PM   #92
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That's funny because from what i've seen, a lot of hispanics do share a lot of values with republicans. I mentioned this before the last POTUS election, but it's worth repeating.

I had a conversation with a mexican girl and she wanted to talk politics. Everything she valued was textbook republican. This girl was basically a Republican, but she was going to vote democrat based off the fact that democrats were at least putting forth some effort into immigration reform, and 2ndly, the generalization that Republicans are bigots.

You log onto Chiefsplanet and read posts like some of the ones in DC and it's no wonder why so many are flocking to the blue.

She should be a Republican voter, but the misrepresentation of the Republican party by republican voters swayed her into being a democrat.

Hilarious. Hispanics favor the Democratic Party on nearly every social and economic issues. They are not "socially conservative" in the least and it's a complete lie concocted by Big Business donors to keep the flood of cheap labor coming in.


But suppose they actually were: so what? They don't vote GOP so it doesn't matter. White rural voters put their values first while it seems your Mexican friend refuses to.
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:55 PM   #93
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But suppose they actually were: so what? They don't vote GOP so it doesn't matter. White rural voters put their values first while it seems your Mexican friend refuses to.
Her hot button subject is immigration reform, which the Democrats have been moving on while Republicans blamed them for America's problems until recently.

I mentioned her in part because it's a reflection of the GOP's poor image problem, and GOP voters certainly don't help the cause.

So while Republicans should be embracing and luring in a new voter, they're chastising her instead, and im sure she's not the only one that feels this way.

The majority of voters aren't well informed and base their opinions off of what they read and hear.

If i'm a first time Latino voter and i read:

"For every [DREAMer] who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there that weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert." Rep. Steve King's (R-Iowa)

then i'd be pretty prone to giving the GOP a nice big middle finger. And then if i read/heard a GoP voter going, "hur hur, aint that the truth", then i'd most certainly turn my back to the GOP.

The GOP has done some really nice things regarding immigration reform lately. But sadly, i don't think it's enough to trump the image problem that's been brewing for the last 15years.

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Old 09-19-2013, 04:08 PM   #94
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Hilarious. Hispanics favor the Democratic Party on nearly every social and economic issues. They are not "socially conservative" in the least and it's a complete lie concocted by Big Business donors to keep the flood of cheap labor coming in.


But suppose they actually were: so what? They don't vote GOP so it doesn't matter. White rural voters put their values first while it seems your Mexican friend refuses to.
Um, it's incredibly naive to think of "hispanics" as some homogenous group. Texas hispanics are VERY socially conservative compared to California hispanics. And of course there are huge variances within those groups as well.

You may as well say all "redheads" vote Democrat because they have no souls. (wait, wait a sec, that one may be accurate)
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:30 PM   #95
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Her hot button subject is immigration reform, which the Democrats have been moving on while Republicans blamed them for America's problems until recently.

I mentioned her in part because it's a reflection of the GOP's poor image problem, and GOP voters certainly don't help the cause.

So while Republicans should be embracing and luring in a new voter, they're chastising her instead, and im sure she's not the only one that feels this way.

The majority of voters aren't well informed and base their opinions off of what they read and hear.

If i'm a first time Latino voter and i read:

"For every [DREAMer] who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there that weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert." Rep. Steve King's (R-Iowa)

then i'd be pretty prone to giving the GOP a nice big middle finger. And then if i read/heard a GoP voter going, "hur hur, aint that the truth", then i'd most certainly turn my back to the GOP.

The GOP has done some really nice things regarding immigration reform lately. But sadly, i don't think it's enough to trump the image problem that's been brewing for the last 15years.

Just ask her if Hispanics were voting 3-1 GOP, if Republicans would be so against immigration. Then ask her what the Dems would do in that circumstance. Just ask her.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:54 AM   #96
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Just ask her if Hispanics were voting 3-1 GOP, if Republicans would be so against immigration. Then ask her what the Dems would do in that circumstance. Just ask her.
You seem to believe that Hispanic never have voted for Republicans.

That is false.

You might want to ask yourself, what did my party do between 2004 and the last two elections to drive away the Hispanic vote.

Cause, as you will see here, it has only been since 2006 that Hispanics have majorly went Democrat:




And of course, Bush received 44 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2004.



The Republican party only has themselves to blame for losing the Hispanic vote.
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Bush didn't win 44%, that exit poll has already been tossed out as inaccurate. The best data was 37% or so. Which is inline with his 35% from 2000 and not that much better than McCain's 31%.


Whether it's 2-1 or 3-1, they're voting Democrat and they've done it in spades forever. Not one single instance of them voting GOP. Not one. Ask that Mexican gal if that might, perhaps, could be effecting Republican views of them.
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Bush didn't win 44%, that exit poll has already been tossed out as inaccurate. The best data was 37% or so. Which is inline with his 35% from 2000 and not that much better than McCain's 31%.


Whether it's 2-1 or 3-1, they're voting Democrat and they've done it in spades forever. Not one single instance of them voting GOP. Not one. Ask that Mexican gal if that might, perhaps, could be effecting Republican views of them.
The party of Personal Responsibility not taking personal responsibility for their own failures. Shocking.
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The party of Personal Responsibility not taking personal responsibility for their own failures. Shocking.
Do you know what "personal responsibility" means? It doesn't mean group (ie party) responsibility.
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Do you know what "personal responsibility" means? It doesn't mean group (ie party) responsibility.
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