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Old 09-20-2013, 04:01 PM  
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PFF, week 3

My god, there's just tons of interesting stuff to talk about this week.

1. Eric Fisher is an absolute dumpster fire. One more sack allowed, two penalties, and a QB hit, and two other hurries. He's bad right now. His whole season has been bad. Two sacks allowed, 7 QB hurries, 3 penalties, and his run blocking isn't good, either. He's the 66th rated OT (out of 68 guys).

2. We ran 84 plays last night. After all the talk about the Eagles running 300 plays a game, we had 14 more. lulz

3. Like I said last night, Justin Houston earned an 8.3 for that game. That's the highest grade I've ever seen anyone on PFF ever get for one game. He's currently the #1 OLB in football, and leads them all in stops, sacks and batted passes.

4. Interestingly enough, Tamba Hali had 8 QB pressures last night. He had a fine game, and actually leads all OLBs in pressures this year. Rumors of his demise are greatly exaggerated.

5. Poe didn't pick up a sack, but got 3 QB hurries of his own. If this guy is picking up 2 sacks or 3 hurries every game, wow. He's sitting comfortably at #10.

6. Tyson Jackson is your unsung hero for the week with a 5.6. That's beasting. 4.0 of it was in pass rush, and he had 3 QB pressures. Who was blocking Tyson Jackson last night? He sucks. Both Jackson and DeVito are ranked in the top 5 among 3-4 DEs.

7. Posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating: Eric Berry is the #1 safety against the pass, and #2 in stops. He's been targeted 11 times and allowed only 35 yards. He's playing well.

8. Sadly, PFF doesn't like Alex Smith's checkdowns. He's currently their 32nd rated QB.

9. Anthony Sherman is the #1 FB in pro football. That trade looks pretty good.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:11 PM   #16
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But is he above Joeckel? That's what I want to know.
No. He's above essentially nobody (Sam Baker and Mitchell Schwartz - the end).

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As noted earlier, the #10 NT? Or #10 something else? I don't see nine nose tackles playing better right now.
He's ranked 10th overall among DTs; 16th as a pass-rusher but 7th against the run.


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Old 09-20-2013, 04:12 PM   #17
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There are 56 DTs on that page. Being #10 isn't a shame.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:14 PM   #18
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There are 56 DTs on that page. Being #10 isn't a shame.
No way in hell there are 9 DT's playing better than Poe right now. Cant believe you pay for that shit.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:15 PM   #19
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It does when you mindlessly regurgitate it, yes. For instance, mindlessly regurgitating PFF tells you that Dontari Poe was actually a detriment as a pass-rusher against Dallas. He honestly got a pass-rush rating of -.4 last week. On the season he's only at a .9 total. Mike DeVito has been much better as a pass-rusher according to PFF.

It's interesting to watch in conjuction with the games, though. You just have to keep an eye out for stuff that just doesn't make much sense.
Yeah PFF is ****ing retarded.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:16 PM   #20
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My eyes are telling me Hali looks a step short. He's been the "almost there" guy all season. Like "oh man if the QB had just held on to it for a half second longer he'da had him". But that's probably enough, because he still has to be accounted for.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:17 PM   #21
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My eyes are telling me Hali looks a step short. He's been the "almost there" guy all season. Like "oh man in the QB had just held on to it for a half second longer he'da had him".
There was at least one last night where he got greedy and went for the ball instead of the QB. Not sure that that's always the issue, but he does seem to whiff on getting the sack a lot.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:18 PM   #22
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There was at least one last night where he went greedy and went for the ball instead of the QB. Not sure that that's always the issue, but he does seem to whiff on getting the sack a lot.
I remember that play, I was pissed.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:18 PM   #23
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Mike Vick makes a lot of dudes look a step short.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:19 PM   #24
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Mike Vick makes a lot of dudes look a step short.
Sure. But Romo and Gabbert don't.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:19 PM   #25
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Yeah PFF is ****ing retarded.
Poe had two sacks against Dallas, but he wasn't getting pressure that much.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:25 PM   #26
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Poe had two sacks against Dallas, but he wasn't getting pressure that much.
How often do DT's get 2 sacks in a game? DeVito put more pressure on Romo? Seriously?
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:27 PM   #27
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My eyes are telling me Hali looks a step short. He's been the "almost there" guy all season. Like "oh man if the QB had just held on to it for a half second longer he'da had him". But that's probably enough, because he still has to be accounted for.
remember before we had the luxury of Justin Houston when Tamba was the ONLY source of rushing the passer

we had broke dicks like Mike Vrabel and Andy Studebaker on the other side.

Tamba doesnt get there anymore because Houstin is faster, stronger, quicker, etc.

When it was just Tamba, he got there eventually. QBs were able to hold the ball longer when it was just him, now the gameplan is QBs getting the ball out as quick as possible against us because there is Tamba AND Houston.

QBs would just camp in the pocket all the time against us because we had shit defenses ran by Romeo that generated no ****ing pressure
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:27 PM   #28
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It does when you mindlessly regurgitate it, yes. For instance, mindlessly regurgitating PFF tells you that Dontari Poe was actually a detriment as a pass-rusher against Dallas. He honestly got a pass-rush rating of -.4 last week. On the season he's only at a .9 total. Mike DeVito has been much better as a pass-rusher according to PFF.

It's interesting to watch in conjuction with the games, though. You just have to keep an eye out for stuff that just doesn't make much sense.

I want to know how they rate DTs when they get doubled and take on extra blockers. Poe was doubled all night against Philly and that help with Houston getting sacks. Poe is demanding attention in the trenches and he is winning.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:28 PM   #29
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I want to know how they rate DTs when they get doubled and take on extra blockers. Poe was doubled all night against Philly and that help with Houston getting sacks. Poe is demanding attention in the trenches and he is winning.
They don't assign points on every play.

Now if you split a double team, you're getting a +
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:35 PM   #30
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remember before we had the luxury of Justin Houston when Tamba was the ONLY source of rushing the passer

we had broke dicks like Mike Vrabel and Andy Studebaker on the other side.

Tamba doesnt get there anymore because Houstin is faster, stronger, quicker, etc.

When it was just Tamba, he got there eventually. QBs were able to hold the ball longer when it was just him, now the gameplan is QBs getting the ball out as quick as possible against us because there is Tamba AND Houston.

QBs would just camp in the pocket all the time against us because we had shit defenses ran by Romeo that generated no ****ing pressure

Tamba Reminds me of Neil Smith - and Houstin reminds me of DT

Poe is starting to remind me of Saleamua and our CB's of Lewis (Smith) and Ross (Flowers)


And how about Erruc Burry and Derrin Churry
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