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If you didn't think The Glass Family weren't in it just for the money, check out how he plans to spit in the face of his STH's.....IF, and its a long shot, IF, the Royals would happen to make the wild card. This guy is such a cheap prick, he makes the taxpayers of Jackson County pay his cable TV bill at Kauffman Stadium!

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Royals’ price markups for postseason tickets among highest in baseball

September 20
By BOB DUTTON
The Kansas City Star

The sticker shock that accompanied the postseason pricing information sent earlier this month by the Royals to their season-ticketholders also jolted professional ticket brokers.

It’s tricky to compare pricing structures because stadium layouts vary widely from club to club. All markets are different, too. Even so, the prices on seats located behind the dugout offer a reasonable comparison.

For this chart, we selected the Royals, an opponent from the American League Central Division (Detroit), the AL opponent located closest to Kansas City (Texas) and a small-market team having its first winning season in a long time (Pittsburgh).

These prices are for season-ticketholders seeking to purchase their seats for postseason games.

Team
Reg. season
Wild Card/LDS (increase)
LCS (increase)
World Series (increase)
Detroit
$48
$85 (77.08%)
$125 (160.4%)
$250 (420.8%)
Texas
$50
$65 (30%)
$125 (150%)
$250 (400%)
Pittsburgh
$27
$43 (59.3%)
$68 (151.9%)
$225 (733.3%)
Royals
$39
$155 (297.4%)
$220 (464.1%)
$275 (605.1%)

“I’ve just never seen anything to this extreme,” one national broker said.

“Normally, it’s expensive, and there’s a little bit of backlash from fans who don’t understand that, hey, it is a big deal. I’ve just never seen it like this.”
Information obtained by The Kansas City Star regarding postseason prices set by several clubs shows the Royals’ markup percentage to be among the highest, if not the highest, in baseball for season-ticketholders.

Example:

Diamond Box seats located behind the dugout on the lower level normally sell for $39 in the regular season. That price jumps to $155 for a wild-card game or the divisional series, $220 for the championship series and $275 for the World Series.

That represents increases of 297.4 percent, 464.1 percent and 605.1 percent. Seem high? Several professionals in the field say they are among the sharpest increases they’ve ever seen for any event.

In contrast, consider this weekend’s opponent, the Texas Rangers, who are also the American League club located closest to Kansas City. The Rangers typically charge $50 for a seat behind the dugout.

Their postseason markup is to $65 for a wild-card game and the divisional series, $125 for the championship series and $250 for the World Series. Brokers say those markups are average to slightly below average.
This might all be a relatively moot point, of course.

The Royals remain a long shot to reach the postseason. They were three games behind Texas, with 10 games left, for the AL’s final wild-card berth before Friday’s game against the Rangers at Kauffman Stadium.

Even so, the Royals, if they fail to reach the postseason, will apply money obtained from advance sales toward 2014 season tickets unless fans specifically request a refund.

Such a procedure is normal for all clubs.

All prices cited here are for season-ticketholders seeking to purchase their seats for postseason games. Those same seats often sell for higher prices when sold on a single-game basis in the regular season and postseason.

That’s part of the rub.

“When playoff tickets come out,” one broker said, “that’s a big benefit for season-ticketholders. You get playoff tickets normally at a reasonable price.
“Where you normally see capitalism is in areas where you don’t have a lot of season-ticketholders, areas where you see fair-weather fans or fans from out of town. Your upper deck. Your outfield seats.

“Charge what you can get for those tickets. Those guys aren’t going to the games during the week in April and May. You need to maximize your revenues from those people.”

The Royals are doing that, too. An Outfield Box seat that normally sells for $23 in the regular season will jump to $95 for the wild-card and divisional series, $110 for the LCS and $175 for the World Series.

Club officials chose to respond to questions regarding their postseason pricing by issuing a statement. It read in part:

“The postseason ticket pricing is determined from a study of both the primary and secondary market by each individual club, with Major League Baseball having final approval on the pricing structure.

“Factors include recent postseason participation by the club and last year’s All-Star events, which supplies the club with enough data to determine fair market pricing.

“Analysis of just one particular seating section for a portion of the entire postseason schedule can lead to false conclusions as some teams will price heavier in the early rounds and less in later rounds, which is the direction we chose to follow.”

The Royals contend their markup percentage is misleading because their regular-season prices are among the lowest in baseball. They also point to capacity at Kauffman Stadium (37,903) as a major factor.

“Kauffman Stadium has the fifth-lowest capacity of the 17 clubs who submitted pricing,” their statement said. “Essentially, the higher-capacity ballparks have lower average prices due to the larger volume of less-expensive tickets farther from the field.”

Something to keep in mind: A club doesn’t keep all of the money generated by postseason ticket sales. A sizable portion of the revenue from ticket sales funds the players’ share for participating in the postseason.

For all that, the Pittsburgh Pirates offer a stark contrast.

The Pirates are a small-market club who endured 20 consecutive losing seasons prior to this year and play in a similar-sized stadium (PNC Park lists capacity as 38,362), but they have more modest hikes for early rounds.

An upper infield seat behind the dugouts typically sells for $27 in the regular season. It will cost $43 for the divisional series, $68 for the league championship series before jumping to $225 for the World Series.

That jump for the World Series represents a 733.3 percent increase over the regular-season price, which is higher than the Royals’ markup percentage from the regular season to the World Series.

Major League Baseball confirmed that it approved the Royals’ pricing — as it did for all 17 clubs permitted to collect money for possible participation in postseason play.

“The Royals sent us a pricing structure,” said Pat Courtney, MLB’s senior vice president for public relations, “and we signed off on it.”

Using seats behind the dugouts is the best basis for comparison on pricing structures because stadium layouts vary widely from club to club. Behind the dugout is, after all, behind the dugout in any ballpark.

Even so, it isn’t a perfect apples-to-apples comparison. Some clubs, including the Pirates, sub-divide those seats into lower and upper areas behind the dugout.

A further complication in comparisons: Some clubs, including St. Louis, plan to use dynamic pricing, which enables the market to set the price — and those prices can jump sharply if demand increases.

Royals officials, privately, say brokers are upset because the club’s pricing approach maximizes the club’s profit potential primarily at the expense of those brokers.

Those same officials say their pricing generated few complaints from fans, and that renewals on season tickets are brisk, although they chose not to supply any figures.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:46 AM   #31
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In principle, yes. In principle, you might also want to take it a bit easier on a very loyal fan base that has been put through hell for two decades.
Yeah, I forgot about you guys being waterboarded and forced to buy these tickets at gunpoint.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:50 AM   #32
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Yeah, I forgot about you guys being waterboarded and forced to buy these tickets at gunpoint.
So how is Uncle David doing these days?
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:52 AM   #33
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Yeah, what drew him in was I used the term "poor people" when referring to STH's. God Forbid we do anything to help "poor people!"
Nice substantive comebacks fellas !!!

See what you don't get is if our economy was truly free from the majority of facets of govt and not being fist ****** by Washington, "We The People" would be experiencing much more profit of what we produce and 'really own' thus the prices being charged to attend a playoff game are non-issue for most.

BUT this is what you get when "We The People" look to the govt to fix EVERYTHING and especially our economy ??? Thus dumbasses like yourselves then become envious an bitter and begin to play the Marxist Class Warfare Card which is what you are doing now. Want to be able to attend your professional team's playoff games without financial issues ? Help yourself by supporting capitalism and allow the free market to help you increase your profit margin individually thus lowering prices all the way around for all rather than looking to the govt and making them bigger and drastically shrinking your potential by higher taxes, over regulations, etc.......which only hurt you in the long run.

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Now and be thankful our Royals are at least teasing us this season and let what little freedom and liberty we still have ring, uh ????
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:55 AM   #34
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A little story about Glass-

Back in the 90's when I was going to college I worked at Sams Club in Grandview. Glass came in for our monthy "town meeting" rah rah bullshit.

There were rumors that they were going to move the store. He stood in front of everyone and said how valuable we were and our jobs were safe- the WALMART WAY!!

Three days later I came to work with cigars for my friends as I had just found out we were having our first kid. I got called into the office thinking I am going to get congratulated- but I was fired. 90 days from being a 7 year fully vested employee- they fired me. Perfect attendance and just worked mega over time the week before for inventory. They fired everyone in the store, moved the club accross the parking lot and hired all new people at minimum wage. They saved 200,000 in vesting money at least and gave 7-30 year employees no notice at all. You came to work and you cleaned your locker out. Since I was soo "valuable" as Glass had stated- they offered me a minimum wage cart pushing job at the Super Center. Of course I was still Fired and lost many thousands in vesting.

The manager had a full cup of hot coffee sitting in front of him- I said I don't think I am strong enough to push carts-lets see-and lifted the desk up slightly spilling the coffee in his crotch. Then politely said F you and Glass!

Glass is a heartless liar- he cares about nothing but money. Glass kissed Sam Waltons ass while he was alive and quickly reversed everything he built the company on when he died. Good customer service, return policies and taking care of your workers.

Worst owner in baseball and a terrible human being period.

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Old 09-21-2013, 11:01 AM   #35
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Same seats are $158 for the NLDS in STL, should we make it. Not sure what the big deal is.

If he's priced these too high, people won't go. Simple as that.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:01 AM   #36
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Who is going to complain about a team that charges among the lowest regular season ticket prices in the league, charging more along the going rate for postseason tickets?

Anybody think the games wouldn't sell out?

This team hasn't been in the postseason for for 28 years, and people want to bitch about it...
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:11 AM   #37
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Glass kissed Sam Waltons ass while he was alive and quickly reversed everything he built the company on when he died. Good customer service, return policies and taking care of your workers.

Worst owner in baseball and a terrible human being period.
I am very sorry this happened to you. I had a former brother-in-law who rose very high in Wal-Mart and saw this first hand. Said the very same thing that as soon as Sam died ........... He said there were many things that the upper echelon underlings under Sam wanted to do for years that Sam would not allow for obvious reasons.......

But it's not 'capitalism' in and of itself that is evil but it is 'greed' that is evil.

I will much rather error on the side of greed which 'We The People' can control and do something about as opposed to "Tyranny by the Govt" which there is no control or freedom by "We The People" and are hosed for good once those liberties and freedoms are gone.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:18 AM   #38
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Yeah, I forgot about you guys being waterboarded and forced to buy these tickets at gunpoint.
WTF are you talking about? Where did I say we were forced to buy anything? Where did I even hint at it?
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:21 AM   #39
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WTF are you talking about? Where did I say we were forced to buy anything? Where did I even hint at it?
You're trying to have a reasonable discussion. Sorry, that ain't gonna happen.
Once these DC junkies latch onto this thread -after all, we criticized a rich person, and that's high treason- they're like pit bulls on the pant leg of opportunity.

Stop making sense.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:24 AM   #40
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:30 AM   #41
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Who is going to complain about a team that charges among the lowest regular season ticket prices in the league, charging more along the going rate for postseason tickets?

Anybody think the games wouldn't sell out?

This team hasn't been in the postseason for for 28 years, and people want to bitch about it...
There in lies the rub. Five years? Eh, no biggie. Ten, borderline. Fifteen plus, you ought to consider not driving the cost up too much.

Twenty eight seasons of mostly complete ineptitude and embarrassment from constantly being one of the worst teams in MLB? You damn well better be thinking about the loyal people who went through some pretty deep dark circles of hell with you instead of jumping ship and finding a new team.

I am a believer in capitalism; I don't think any restrictions should be put on this franchise to keep them from doing this other than the ones their conscience deems appropriate. It's just sad to see that they apparently don't have a conscience.
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[quote=Chiefshrink;10004366]I am very sorry this happened to you. I had a former brother-in-law who rose very high in Wal-Mart and saw this first hand. Said the very same thing that as soon as Sam died ........... He said there were many things that the upper echelon underlings under Sam wanted to do for years that Sam would not allow for obvious reasons.......


Sam was badass and had a great sense of humor. He came into the Indep. store and was talking about returns. He truly wanted everyone to be happy that came in there so they would always come back. A founding principle of his business.

So he picks up a tennis racket out of the return cart. "Its past 30 days but they have a receipt-do we take this back." Most of the crowd says YES- and he confirms it.

"Its past 30 days blah blah blah-no receipt" Half say NO- Sam says Yes.

He takes the racket and smashes it on the floor- bends the shit out of it. "How about now?" All say NO!! Sam says "Hell Yes, because we are Walmart- the best business in the world. What we lose on this racket we make up for with respect and future sales."

Sam was the Man- soon as he died- You have to give blood practically to get them to take anything back-lol Nice job Glass- you never learned a thing.
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You're trying to have a reasonable discussion. Sorry, that ain't gonna happen.
Once these DC junkies latch onto this thread -after all, we criticized a rich person, and that's high treason- they're like pit bulls on the pant leg of opportunity.

Stop making sense.
I wouldn't even have a problem if he just disagreed with me. But he brought up some angle that was never mentioned.

You want to disagree with me then disagree with me. But don't make **** up.
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Nice substantive comebacks fellas !!!

See what you don't get is if our economy was truly free from the majority of facets of govt and not being fist ****** by Washington, "We The People" would be experiencing much more profit of what we produce and 'really own' thus the prices being charged to attend a playoff game are non-issue for most.

BUT this is what you get when "We The People" look to the govt to fix EVERYTHING and especially our economy ??? Thus dumbasses like yourselves then become envious an bitter and begin to play the Marxist Class Warfare Card which is what you are doing now. Want to be able to attend your professional team's playoff games without financial issues ? Help yourself by supporting capitalism and allow the free market to help you increase your profit margin individually thus lowering prices all the way around for all rather than looking to the govt and making them bigger and drastically shrinking your potential by higher taxes, over regulations, etc.......which only hurt you in the long run.

It ALLLLLLLLLLL has a BIG DOMINO effect down to your very wallet you pull out to pay for anything and especially your and my personal passion of KC Pro Sports teams. You can stand back whine and bitch like true class warfare dumb asses or you can get educated and actually support our Founding Father's vision of Liberty and Freedom and the real pursuit of happiness

Now and be thankful our Royals are at least teasing us this season and let what little freedom and liberty we still have ring, uh ????
Shut the **** up you paranoid lunatic.
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Shut the **** up you paranoid lunatic.
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