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Old 09-22-2013, 04:22 PM  
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DON'T fire Ned Yost

Ned made a great decision in the bottom of the 10th inning today. If Ned hadn't had Getz pinch run for Billy, the inning would have been over before Justin Maxwell ever came to the plate.

Everybody hates Ned and wants him to be fired. I don't. He sometimes makes game-time decisions that are easy to second-guess, but you've got to give him credit: the Royals have just about the best clubhouse atmosphere and team camraderie of any team I've ever seen. Ned deserves a hell of a lot of credit for that.

Not only do I think Ned won't be fired, I'm convinced he shouldn't be fired.

Edit: I was drunk with the euphoria of Justin Maxwell's walkoff grand slam when I created this thread. I have since sobered up.

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Old 09-22-2013, 07:33 PM   #61
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It's funny because Dunn has been around forever but he's only 33. He always seems to be a fan favorite... although he hasn't even hit near .250 for like 4 years. He's more like a .200 hitter now. Wonder if he has another resurgence in him.

Other weird thing about him is he hits a ton of homers, but he has played 13 years and never made the playoffs once.
I know that. His career avg is 230 something, but he also has well over 400 homers.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:34 PM   #62
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They probably would not trade him to KC unless it was a stupid offer anyway.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:39 PM   #63
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And Dunn has over 1200 walks in his career. He is boom or bust, but he is fun to watch.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:03 PM   #64
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One more thing Ned Yost deserves blame for:

Let's not forget about his whining to Dayton Moore about needing hitting coaches who would teach guys to hit for more power... introducing the situation that led to the Jack Maloof/Andre David disaster.

I put a big portion of the blame for the May swoon on those buffoons screwing up almost the entire team's worth of hitters.

Yost has not cost the Royals 10 games overall or even probably 5 overall. But I feel comfortable saying he has cost them at least 2-3 over the course of the season (all things considered, good and bad), and that's likely to be the margin between playoff baseball and anxiously awaiting next year while trying to figure out how to convince Carlos Beltran to come "home" to end his career.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:08 PM   #65
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Adam Dunn is about the worst fit imaginable for this team. He can only play one spot where we already have an 8m payroll cancer occupying. Second, there is no second, there's no spot. And that's if he wasn't a fat slow aging no-care hanger on cashing his last paychecks
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:04 PM   #66
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Would be funny to see him win 85 for a small market team and let him go by tellin him it woulda been 95 if only for his bad managing. I bet we'd have a flood of applicants wanting to come work with us. A tsunami of the best in baseball
And Yost would have no problem getting another job. Any rebuilding team with young players would jump at the chance to hire him.

That's what people forget. EVERY manager makes decisions that don't work out. Ned Yost is not a good tactical manager, but he is the best fit for this team right now because the players believe in him and they believe in each other.

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Old 09-22-2013, 09:15 PM   #67
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:19 PM   #68
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And Yost would have no problem getting another job. Any rebuilding team with young players would jump at the chance to hire him.

That's what people forget. EVERY manager makes decisions that don't work out. Ned Yost is not a good tactical manager, but he is the best fit for this team TWO YEARS AGO because the players believed in him and they believe in each other.
There. Fixed it.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:20 PM   #69
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still have a shot at the WC so he will come back. Lucky us.
So which team is most likely to falter: TB or Cleveland? Not sure I see either losing out with a 3.5 lead and only 7 games left. (And TX is still 2 ahead of the Royals.)
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:27 PM   #70
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OP, I see where you're coming from, but you're just wrong on this.

Ned makes a few good decisions here and there, but they are the kinds of decisions that any competent manager should be able to make.

However, his bad decisions far outweigh the good ones. I can't ever remember a time where I went "Wow, what a great decision from Ned!" in a situation that wasn't totally obvious. A manager isn't going to win you many games with tactics. Maybe 3-4 over the season. But a bad manager can really, really cost you. We'd be solidly in the playoffs right now if it weren't for Ned.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:37 PM   #71
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So which team is most likely to falter: TB or Cleveland? Not sure I see either losing out with a 3.5 lead and only 7 games left. (And TX is still 2 ahead of the Royals.)
TB. Cleveland's schedule is so weak that they would have to implode to not make it. We still have a shot because we are not mathematically eliminated yet.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:51 PM   #72
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Ned sure did a great job after the break when we were left for dead. Something like .630 since. He will get some manager of year votes if we get past 85 wins
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:06 PM   #74
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Ned sure did a great job after the break when we were left for dead. Something like .630 since. He will get some manager of year votes if we get past 85 wins
Francona (who has outclassed Ned head to head all year) should have that award in the bag.
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