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Old 09-22-2013, 04:22 PM  
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DON'T fire Ned Yost

Ned made a great decision in the bottom of the 10th inning today. If Ned hadn't had Getz pinch run for Billy, the inning would have been over before Justin Maxwell ever came to the plate.

Everybody hates Ned and wants him to be fired. I don't. He sometimes makes game-time decisions that are easy to second-guess, but you've got to give him credit: the Royals have just about the best clubhouse atmosphere and team camraderie of any team I've ever seen. Ned deserves a hell of a lot of credit for that.

Not only do I think Ned won't be fired, I'm convinced he shouldn't be fired.

Edit: I was drunk with the euphoria of Justin Maxwell's walkoff grand slam when I created this thread. I have since sobered up.

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Old 09-26-2013, 03:17 AM   #121
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After watching the Royals feeble effort the last two nights, I'd just like to apologize to everyone for this stupid ****ing thread.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:35 AM   #122
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:51 AM   #123
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:48 AM   #124
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Apology accepted. Now...for those living in KC, start sitting at the K with signs saying "Let Yost Go!" Do your part, KC residents. The rest of us are counting on you to make an uproar over DM's latest comments. Ridiculous that we're this close and we would hire that blockhead back to influence this team for another year.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #125
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Are there better managers than Yost? Of course. Would they come to KC...? errrr, not so sure
Who are they? Honest question, I'd be curious to know who's better than Yost. I'm not saying there aren't any but I'm just asking for proof of it.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:08 AM   #126
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Girardi is a free agent manager this off-season. Charlie Manuel (old, I know). Sciossia or his GM will be gone - not convinced of which at this point. I'm intrigued by Pedro Grifol and his reputation as a rising star in the baseball world, but not wanting to try a new guy.

For those that would say Girardi isn't coming here, you're just working off of old-news. The Royals aren't a laughing stock. Smart manager candidates that have watched Ned piss away opportunities and mishandle the team during struggling times are just arrogant enough to show they can do what others haven't done in KC. The young talent is extremely untapped and most guys recognize that and probably think they can fix it.

Show any of these guys the $$$ and they'll come. Now will Glass hand out Andy Reid type contracts? I actually doubt that...but he's surprised me before.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:14 AM   #127
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Apology accepted. Now...for those living in KC, start sitting at the K with signs saying "Let Yost Go!" Do your part, KC residents. The rest of us are counting on you to make an uproar over DM's latest comments. Ridiculous that we're this close and we would hire that blockhead back to influence this team for another year.
Uh, shall we sit in the stands with no home games left?
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:18 AM   #128
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I was thinking parking lot near the business office entrance...but sure...break into the stadium. I'm sure that will get someone's attention.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:32 AM   #129
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Clinkscale said the other day he would rather have Buddy Bell.

Then again Clinkscale always hates everything so who knows if that was a real opinion.

Are there better managers than Yost? Of course. Would they come to KC...? errrr, not so sure
Charlie Manuel is better than Yost - by a mile - and Buster Olney is certain he would go to KC if the Royals came calling. (Manuel is similar to Yost in some regards - good motivator who excels with young players - but is much better tactically).

There's a slim chance Joe Girardi will be available, and if he is, he should be target No. 1.

Bud Black in San Diego is another guy who could be out and would be a great candidate.

And... this is outside the box, and I'm not sure a rookie skipper is the best guy to tab for this team next year, but I am intrigued by Jason Giambi.

Guy could be a real star manager. As a star player, he would command respect in the clubhouse (not quite on George Brett level, but similar). And he is not likely to be tied to the extreme old school (bunts/speed guys who can't hit or get on base in the 2 spot, over-reliance on shitty grinders like Getz, etc) style of managing.

I also think Pedro Grifol would get a look. Everything about him screams future star, the team already respects and trusts him, etc.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:39 AM   #130
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I suppose it would be fitting for another long-term Philadelphia pariah to come to KC to lead the Royals to glory.

I just don't see GMDM letting Yost go. Yeah, I know about posturing, and I know that there's a chance that Yost might want more years than GMDM is willing to give him, but I'd be shocked if he's not retained.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:43 AM   #131
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Send Ned packing. Don't worry GMDM, he will catch on in Seattle. I'm sure he'll be a hit with their Japanese following.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:51 AM   #132
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With that said, it's nice to know that this would probably be the most attractive job for managers on the market.

-Bud Black has Royals history, and has done good things with an atrocious roster.

-I'm fine with Giambi, but would probably wonder all year if he shouldn't just grab a bat and hit sometimes.

-I'd also be fine with Manuel (Charlie).

-I would imagine that if Girardi is cut lose, he'll take a straight line to Chicago to run the Cubs.

-Wally Backman would be entertaining!
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:51 AM   #133
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I suppose it would be fitting for another long-term Philadelphia pariah to come to KC to lead the Royals to glory.

I just don't see GMDM letting Yost go. Yeah, I know about posturing, and I know that there's a chance that Yost might want more years than GMDM is willing to give him, but I'd be shocked if he's not retained.
The impression I've seen is that Manuel is low-hanging fruit. He's out there, he's available, he wants to be in KC and would take the job if offered.

I think they CAN do better. Depends on who is actually out there.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:55 AM   #134
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Yost prolongs the existence of chicken shit when there are better options available.

If Francouer is chicken shit, replace him with Lough sooner. No one could possibly be worse.

If Getz/Johnson are chicken shit, give Giavotella or Falu a chance (or trade for somebody sooner than they traded for Bonafacio). For some reason, Giavotella and Falu get about 6 at-bats per year to prove themselves, and if they do nothing, they go back to the minors. Yet guys like Getz fail for years and years and keep getting playing time.

If Crow/Herrera are chicken shit in clutch situations, LET LOUIS COLEMAN PITCH. WHY THE HELL DOES LOUIS COLEMAN NEVER PITCH?

If Davies is chicken shit, replace him with Duffy/Ventura earlier in the year. This is the single most baffling move of the season to me, and the one that in the long run cost the Royals the most. If it's June or July and you see Davies sitting there with a 5.50 ERA, try someone else. Davies lost way too many games that could have been won with a decent starter, and that was ultimately the biggest failure this season. If Duffy or Ventura joins the rotation in June, I think we're looking at a playoff team here.
How much of this is Yost? I think DM deserves a lot of criticism for not making these changes.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:55 AM   #135
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With that said, it's nice to know that this would probably be the most attractive job for managers on the market.

-Bud Black has Royals history, and has done good things with an atrocious roster.

-I'm fine with Giambi, but would probably wonder all year if he shouldn't just grab a bat and hit sometimes.

-I'd also be fine with Manuel (Charlie).

-I would imagine that if Girardi is cut lose, he'll take a straight line to Chicago to run the Cubs.

-Wally Backman would be entertaining!
Well, if Girardi is on the market, that means the Yankees job is open. I imagine that will be the most attractive job out there.

But your point remains... KC job is much more attractive than it has been at any time since Howser left.
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