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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

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Old 09-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #601
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holy shit, I read this and thought you were referencing me at first...totally blew my circuits for a second, just about yelled in my office
I'd probably play dumb were I you as well.

You were among the loudest and most aggressive of the Piolismokers from day 1. Oh you changed your mind after a couple of years, but anyone that suggested that Pioli flat ****ed up the coaching search or the 2009 draft was greeted with both barrels by you.

I don't truly care - you were wrong. It's happened before, it'll happen again. But in the end, its incredibly hypocritical for you to call folks out for trying to look at past performance to dictate future results when that was your rallying cry when Pioli showed up.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #602
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I didn't realize the consensus view of Reid's time in Philly was that he was a play-not-to-lose Marty clone.
Who gives a **** what the "consensus view of Reid's time in Philly" is or was?

It's the style of winning this team is living on right now. This is by the book, regular season success, amp up the fans in the stands, come up short when you need it most, Marty Schottenheimer football.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #603
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Alex isn't he biggest issue with the offense. Believe what you want.
I haven't seen anyone say Alex is the biggest issue or the only issue. What I have seen is people saying he's part of the equation, along with the line, the injuries and the playcalling. And apparently it's okay to mention the injuries and the playcalling. And to run down Dwayne Bowe or any other skill player on the team. But any mention of Alex Smith is off limits. Instantaneous response. It's like there's a batsignal or something. Maybe a loud klaxon sounding in basements all over SF. Weee-ooohhh. And lo the defenders come swarming out of the woodwork, incensed at our audacity, that we would actually expect more from him.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:37 PM   #604
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Why anyone on a Chiefs forum would care about Geno Smith is mind-numbing.
It's frankly agitating to me.

****ing Geno Smith and Mark ****ing Sanchez.

Folks just need to get their goddamn Jets Jerseys and **** off. They have the two best QB's EVAR!!! SUPERBOWL!!!
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:37 PM   #605
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Ok. You are correct and practically every other person on the planet is incorrect.
Here you go man. Just myself and USA Today got it wrong, but keep ****ing that chicken

"What was David thinking when he shoved New York Jets rookie quarterback Geno Smith, when Smith already was out of bounds on a scramble to the Bucs' 45-yard line? The penalty came with seven seconds remaining, the Jets down by two and well out of field-goal range."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...revis/2782997/
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I see this thread received a BURST.

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Old 09-26-2013, 01:37 PM   #607
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hey guys, Dane and Marcellus have opinions on Alex Smith

no need for anyone else to discuss it...they have their opinions, and that's enough for everyone...

got it?

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mods, could you lock this thread? it's very existence is an affront to their opinions...thanks
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:37 PM   #608
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In all honesty, it's hard to believe that this team is 3-0, let alone, talk about a Super Bowl.
Well if we had drafted Geno the SB would be an option this year.

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hey guys, Dane and Marcellus have opinions on Alex Smith

no need for anyone else to discuss it...they have their opinions, and that's enough for everyone...

got it?

good

mods, could you lock this thread? it's very existence is an affront to their opinions...thanks
Why is your butt hurt dude? We are discussing football and now you want to cry like a bitch.
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Yeah, that's it: I'm ignorant. Let's go with that.



Alex Smith is the QB for the Chiefs. He's a risk-averse, efficient game manager. No one claimed he was Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees.

I find it completely unnecessary to bring that up in every conversation.



Our current offense is a gigantic cluster****. There's no true slot receiver, the tight ends were literally signed off the street, the rookie right tackle woudn't be starting had he not been the number one overall selection and the interior offensive line has issues.

In all honesty, it's hard to believe that this team is 3-0, let alone, talk about a Super Bowl.
So are you saying that once we have great TEs, a probowl slot receiver, and the Vermeil era Oline, Alex Smith will be more than a sub 300 yard QB?
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It's frankly agitating to me.

****ing Geno Smith and Mark ****ing Sanchez.

Folks just need to get their goddamn Jets Jerseys and **** off. They have the two best QB's EVAR!!! SUPERBOWL!!!
Marcellus is more obsessed with Geno than anyone...check the Geno Smith/Alex Smith thread (which is at 5,000 posts), and then see which of those posters are in here..

hint, it ain't me and you
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Bullshit.

The people that were on his 'bandwagon' simply said there was no reason to expect this massive regression to the 70 some-odd rated passer he was prior to his time with Harbaugh.

Folks that have backed smith have, to a man, said that he's simply going to be exactly what he's for the latter 1/3 of his NFL career - a competent, risk-averse QB that's capable of winning a lot of games but not quite a franchise caliber QB.

But many of you fellas have a lot easier time knocking down straw-men of your own creation so you continue to make them.

That's fine, but you're 'rebutting' arguments that were largely never made.
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Here you go man. Just myself and USA Today got it wrong, but keep ****ing that chicken

"What was David thinking when he shoved New York Jets rookie quarterback Geno Smith, when Smith already was out of bounds on a scramble to the Bucs' 45-yard line? The penalty came with seven seconds remaining, the Jets down by two and well out of field-goal range."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...revis/2782997/
7 seconds left and well out of FG range.

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I haven't seen anyone say Alex is the biggest issue or the only issue. What I have seen is people saying he's part of the equation, along with the line, the injuries and the playcalling. And apparently it's okay to mention the injuries and the playcalling. And to run down Dwayne Bowe or any other skill player on the team. But any mention of Alex Smith is off limits. Instantaneous response. It's like there's a batsignal or something. Maybe a loud klaxon sounding in basements all over SF. Weee-ooohhh. And lo the defenders come swarming out of the woodwork, incensed at our audacity, that we would actually expect more from him.
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Marcellus is more obsessed with Geno than anyone...check the Geno Smith/Alex Smith thread (which is at 5,000 posts), and then see which of those posters are in here..

hint, it ain't me and you
And he just brought him up again, mere seconds after you typed this. It's like you're prophetic.
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