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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

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Old 09-26-2013, 08:02 AM   #91
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Comp% will come with time. His 2nd WR didn't even become that until the preseason was about over. His main TE is injured. His O line is not exactly helping him out in pass protection.

I think his numbers will slowly bounce up to what they were the last 1.5 seasons in SF...
actually, the 53% is Bowe's target/catch ratio... pretty bad so far.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:04 AM   #92
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I Am worried about the offense but **** its andy ****ing reid offensive guru. He will pull this shit fit together.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:04 AM   #93
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You look just as stupid as these Niner fans when you say things like this.

You're better than that.
Ehh, it gets old. Honestly.

I understand your points regarding offense inefficiency and lack of offense, I really do. I've never came out and said I liked how our offense is going, honestly. There are so many things that need improved. I believe any smart, realistic Chiefs fan on this board realizes this.

But, man, how many of us thought we'd realistically be 3-0 before the season started?

Mark me down for a guy who is "just enjoying the ride."
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:05 AM   #94
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NO THATS JUST ALEX SMITH BEING EFFICIENT

IF THE DEFENDING IS GOOD THEN THE OFFENSE IS SUPPOSED TO SUCK

ANDY REID VANILLA OFFENSE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY SUPER TOP SECRET PLAYS

/Smith Homer dumbasses

Hall of Fame QBs win Super Bowls!!!! Get one. /retards like you.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:05 AM   #95
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What ya got, BigMouth58? nothing to say?
Why would he argue? Hell, you're proving his point. The Chiefs are winning despite Alice, not because of him.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:07 AM   #96
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Ehh, it gets old. Honestly.

I understand your points regarding offense inefficiency and lack of offense, I really do. I've never came out and said I liked how our offense is going, honestly. There are so many things that need improved. I believe any smart, realistic Chiefs fan on this board realizes this.

But, man, how many of us thought we'd realistically be 3-0 before the season started?

Mark me down for a guy who is "just enjoying the ride."
And that's fine, but it's also fine if others want to take it to another level.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:08 AM   #97
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Being a real fan must suck ass. Are you really just frustrated as can be right now? Wow. What a horrible feeling.
Hey look, another dimestore psychologist.

The defense and kicking game have been spectacular, and are winning games for us. I'm frustrated with the offense, of course.

But that's because I have two eyes and aren't willing to just ignore issues because we're 3-0.

You can be a fan and still be critical of pieces of the team that is underperforming. And the offense is woefully underperforming.

I'm driving 4 hours each way to go to the game Sunday.

But I'm a bad fan for stating facts, instead of burying my head in the sand and screaming "3-0" to the heavens?
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:08 AM   #98
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Ehh, it gets old. Honestly.

I understand your points regarding offense inefficiency and lack of offense, I really do. I've never came out and said I liked how our offense is going, honestly. There are so many things that need improved. I believe any smart, realistic Chiefs fan on this board realizes this.

But, man, how many of us thought we'd realistically be 3-0 before the season started?

Mark me down for a guy who is "just enjoying the ride."
I can't speak for OTW but for me I am tired of "enjoying the ride" and losing in the playoffs. I lived through the 90's and I don't want to repeat that. It is SB or bust for me.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #99
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And that's fine, but it's also fine if others want to take it to another level.
Without a doubt.

Just as long as it isn't people trying to cram down our throats (which nobody has taken it to that level yet).
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #100
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I don't know if I really had any expectations other than better than last year. However with results expectation can change (See Royals).

While I expected the D to improve with a comptetent coach I didn't expect this type of performance, but now I found myself stuck in 1993 with a solid coaching staff, top shelf defense and a QB that seems to be what will hold this team back.
Fair enough, I still think the OL is a lot bigger problem than Smith at this point and they are obviously directly related, but I will concede there is room for improvement with both.
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Hey look, another dimestore psychologist.

The defense and kicking game have been spectacular, and are winning games for us. I'm frustrated with the offense, of course.

But that's because I have two eyes and aren't willing to just ignore issues because we're 3-0.

You can be a fan and still be critical of pieces of the team that is underperforming. And the offense is woefully underperforming.

I'm driving 4 hours each way to go to the game Sunday.

But I'm a bad fan for stating facts, instead of burying my head in the sand and screaming "3-0" to the heavens?
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(I only drive 2 1/2 hours one way though)
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:11 AM   #103
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I can't speak for OTW but for me I am tired of "enjoying the ride" and losing in the playoffs. I lived through the 90's and I don't want to repeat that. It is SB or bust for me.
This defense is good enough to win this team one playoff game.

I'm a masochist -- Chiefs and Royals fan.

I know this might not be liked around these parts - but i would be pleased with a playoff win this year.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:11 AM   #104
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Why would he argue? Hell, you're proving his point. The Chiefs are winning despite Alice, not because of him.
What a stupid thing to say. I would accept you saying that the D and STs returns are greatly assisting Alex and the offense. That would be fair. But Alex is the one out there orchestrating 80 yard scoring drives when the team desperately needed it. Alex is the one throwing 4 TD passes, and then using his legs to extend drives on 3rd and long. Alex is the one throwing passes that KC needs to assist in winning KC games.

If you truly believe that shit you just typed, then you are a potato.
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Points are overrated.
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