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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

some numbers to chew on from arrowhead pride

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:23 PM   #1231
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3400 yards is setting the bar high?
I didnt think so either. Thats just what some said. That it was too high.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:24 PM   #1232
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SDH bet he would throw for less than 3000. So I guess to him it was VERY high.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:25 PM   #1233
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Yeah, the bet is us winning the division over Dungver, so................
You are a fn moron.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:31 PM   #1234
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Just let me get this straight.

You thought Alex would throw for less than 3000, but we would beat the donks for the division?

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:32 PM   #1235
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You are a fn moron.
So my hate for Denver makes me a moron? Why you gotta' be a hater? Don't you like the Chiefs?
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:33 PM   #1236
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Just let me get this straight.

You thought Alex would throw for less than 3000, but we would beat the donks for the division?

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Well, let's see; Special Teams and Defense are winning our games for us, so......
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:35 PM   #1237
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So my hate for Denver makes me a moron? Why you gotta' be a hater? Don't you like the Chiefs?
Edited: Its obvious that emotion always overrules your logic...or lack there of
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:38 PM   #1238
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Well, let's see; Special Teams and Defense are winning our games for us, so......
Yet you are off of the pace you bet on by 680 yards...

I love you. You make it so easy.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:40 PM   #1239
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You bash Chiefs, AND make us all look stupid when you post.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:47 PM   #1240
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Well, be a swell guy, and help a dumbass out here. I can't learn the issue with just a vague response of "you're a dumbass." Am I missing a huge piece of this puzzle? or are you just frustrated that my words are right, and that's the only response you have left?


I don't know why in week 4, people are so fixated about the playoffs, and stuck in this panic that a week 4 offense won't be far better by the time the playoffs arrive. Is this one of those "move the goal posts" things? People are stunned that KC is 3-0, and so now, their next strawman is "well, they'll get their ass kicked in the playoffs, so.."

One game at a time. If this offense is exactly where they are today (or worse) in December, then it would be time to worry. Not now, for ****'s sake.
GFY you self-righteous prick. If you actually were a Chiefs fan, you would know exactly why mediocre isn't good enough. We watched Bono squander our most promising years. We haven't had a franchise QB in decades. And we haven't won a playoff game since Montana. What the **** do you know about the pain of Chiefs fans, you bandwagon twat? Who the **** do you think you are to tell us how to watch our team?
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:52 PM   #1241
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GFY you self-righteous prick. If you actually were a Chiefs fan, you would know exactly why mediocre isn't good enough. We watched Bono squander our most promising years. We haven't had a franchise QB in decades. And we haven't won a playoff game since Montana. What the **** do you know about the pain of Chiefs fans, you bandwagon twat? Who the **** do you think you are to tell us how to watch our team?
Well, they suffered for those horrible few years between steve young and jim harbaugh, so they certainly can understand our 40 years of wandering in the desert.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:14 PM   #1242
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You bash Chiefs, AND make us all look stupid when you post.
I don't have to help you look stupid.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:21 PM   #1243
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I don't have to help you look stupid.
Damn. You really told me, didnt you?
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:22 PM   #1244
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Yet here you are.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:24 PM   #1245
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Damn. You really told me, didnt you?
Sometimes simple and straightforward gets the job done.
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