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Old 09-26-2013, 07:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

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Old 09-28-2013, 05:47 PM   #1336
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:52 PM   #1337
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You don't get to choose who posts here, you arrogant ****head.
You still don't ****ing get it, you moron?

Jesus Christ, you're stupid.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #1338
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Obviously Clark did or FN pioli would still be here and we would still have Cashole and be 0-3. I think it was a big slap upside the head in how bad he ran his dad's team in the ground.

Other teams didn't have the fan support of SOC and they still suck.
Yeah, it wasn't the financial implications of going 2-14 or having one of the most inept teams in the league or a player killing his girlfriend and then himself in front of the HC and GM.... Clark needed to be tapped on the shoulder by the fans and be told that changes needed to be made. And there's no more proof than other teams being bad. And of course, who cares if Quinn started the last half of the season, Cassel would be starting right now if it weren't for the banners.

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Old 09-28-2013, 06:27 PM   #1339
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Does Clark even like football ?
Regardless, he likes money.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:30 PM   #1340
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Spatblass is just a ****ing idiot who thinks that we should all be happy with a team to root for in KC.
I didn't say that either. But frankly, I don't care what a guy that thinks he is a football expert (but isn't) thinks about me.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:38 PM   #1341
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And that in itself is the biggest problem. Andy Reid refuses to adapt to the strengths of his team. That is an area that needs to be ADJUSTED.
I think he's pushing while trying to see what will work and what won't. Unlike most coaches we've had since forever, I DO trust Reid to game plan offensively from week to week in a manner befitting a coach of his status.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:39 PM   #1342
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Does Clark even like football ?
I don't know, but I DO know that he likes me and visits me in my dreams from time to time...
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:41 PM   #1343
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Clark's taken a much more hands-on role with the team this year, a clear change from the past. I don't think the soccer jokes carry so much truth now as they used to.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:47 PM   #1344
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Clark's taken a much more hands-on role with the team this year, a clear change from the past. I don't think the soccer jokes carry so much truth now as they used to.
You'd be an idiot to be that rich and not want to push the world's most popular game.

That said he's realized that any, and I mean ALL, reputation this team had under Lamar was lost under Clark.

Lamar did not fail horribly, squander draft picks, hire total loser HC's.

That was all on Clark.

Clark took his dad's pride and joy and drove it into the ****ing dirt.

Deep.


Deep.


DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeep into the ****ing dirt.

This is only step one of crawling out...
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:49 PM   #1345
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Lamar did not fail horribly, squander draft picks, hire total loser HC's.
*Resisting urge to make comments about 1998-2000.*
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:52 PM   #1346
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*Resisting urge to make comments about 1998-2000.*
Every wave...
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:52 PM   #1347
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*Resisting urge to make comments about 1998-2000.*
Not to mention 1987-1988.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:55 PM   #1348
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Not to mention 1987-1988.
The reality is that this team has done exactly jack since January, 1970.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:56 PM   #1349
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True, that.

(Although I do think a full championship game from Joe Montana changes that. And even so....that's 20 years ago.)
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:57 PM   #1350
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The reality is that this team has done exactly jack since January, 1970.
Thank you. And this is why "why can't you just be happy with a return to Marty-era football, where the Chiefs are at least respected" can kiss my mother****ing ass.
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